Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Primus' seventh studio album


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete all. No objection to recreation from me upon knowing a name. Wizardman 14:43, 5 August 2008 (UTC)

Primus' seventh studio album
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WP:MUSIC states: "Once the artist or their record label has publicly confirmed the title, track listing and release date, an article about the album is not a WP:CRYSTAL violation.", which all of these albums fail. They currently lack titles, verified release dates, and track listings. I am also nominating the following album articles for the same failings: lifebaka (talk - contribs) 14:21, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Delete the Michael Jackson album: I don't know enough about the others to comment, but the Michael Jackson one has been here for 18 months and the album still hasn't been released. It's just made up of tabloid rumor and gossip for the most part. — Realist 2  ( Speak ) 14:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

OK to delete Primus seventh: especially in light of Michael Jackson being up for two years! ...perfect rationale. That aside, the Primus website still announces their 2006 releases as "new". - Steve3849 talk 14:42, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy all - albums with no title, track listing or release date --T-rex 14:43, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * They can't be speedied, they don't meet any of the criteria. Cheers.  lifebaka (talk - contribs) 14:44, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Then we should expand the speedy criteria --T-rex 15:13, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep the Franz Ferdinand album: It's coming out within a few months, plus it has a lot of useful information.

Delete the Primus album: no reason to keep it, it's got no info and it's old


 * delete all per nom and throw in a dash of WP:HAMMER as well. Although I have to say darn you, I'd just found the Slayer article and was going to nominate it myself. Umbralcorax (talk) 15:05, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all via MIRV—even Franz Ferdinand. That one has a lot of useful information...on festivals FF has played since their last album was released.  For all of these, come back when the WP:MUSIC criteria are met.  If anyone wants the info from the FF article (or any of the others) they can be userified until the albums are actually announced.  Livitup (talk) 15:08, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all per WP:HAMMER, WP:MUSIC & WP:CRYSTAL.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 15:36, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete all It's Hammer Time! ______'s __th album simply isn't notable. - Mdsummermsw (talk) 16:26, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Comment - turn pages into redirects to information on artist's page about the upcoming album instead of deleting. These pages have a lot of information, and it would be a shame to delete it all. This way, when more information becomes available, the redirect could be reverted and new information could simply be added instead of starting over new. Fezmar9 (talk) 17:16, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * If there are concerns for any individual page they should be stated directly. Such as the Franz Ferdinand comment above. The Primus page has nothing notable. - Steve3849 talk 17:39, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * I was referring specifically to Suicidal Tendencies' ninth studio album and Rancid's seventh studio album; but my point is something to be considered for all upcoming albums with significant amount of information, but no title or track listing or release date. Fezmar9 (talk) 17:50, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete all per WP:HAMMER, the articles can be re-created once the albums have been released. RFerreira (talk) 17:57, 29 July 2008 (UTC)

Keep the Rancid album: According to the band themselves, their new album is supposed to be out in September 2008. Alex (talk) 18:59, 29 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Please note that September is a month, not a date, so that article is still failing on all three counts --T-rex 19:24, 29 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete all per WP:HAMMER. There is no verifiable info for any of these albums, anywhere. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 19:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   --  Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells• Otter chirps • HELP!) 19:11, 30 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep all seems like a waste to delete all this useful information.  Grue   05:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment The information doesn't need to be lost. I copied the content of Franz Ferdinand's third album to User:David Edgar/Franz Ferdinand's third album. As and when the album is released, any useful sections can be copied to the new article under the proper album name. Interested users may do the same for the other articles. --David Edgar (talk) 07:47, 31 July 2008 (UTC)
 * Ehm, that's not quite cool if it gets delete, for GFDL reasons. If this closes as delete ping me at my talk page and I'll userfy the history to acompany it.  Cheers.  lifebaka (talk - contribs) 14:40, 31 July 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete per WP:HAMMER Sceptre (talk) 09:36, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep Stupid idea to delete an article related to one of the most important bands in California punk history. The band themselves did say their new album will be out next month. This page has existed for almost two years now, and there's no way this article should be deleted. RaNcIdPuNkS (talk) 22:09, 1 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: if the rules say otherwise, change the rules. Wik idea  19:11, 2 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Not trying to badger you, but usually a more in-depth argument is needed for people to take WP:IAR seriously. Would you mind expanding?  Cheers.  lifebaka (talk - contribs) 02:48, 3 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep: A lot of useful information in albums that have not been released yet. It would be a shame to delete it all. Tezkag72 (talk) 14:02, 4 August 2008 (UTC)
 * delete Last years news, no evidence that this album will be. Mukadderat (talk) 15:45, 4 August 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.