Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece and Denmark (2nd nomination)


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The result was keep. (non-admin closure) The Duke of Nonsense What is necessary for thee?. 14:17, 13 July 2018 (UTC)

Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece and Denmark
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A very clear case of WP:BIORELATED. Nothing he has done is in any way notable other than being the grandson of a king and bearing a title. Previous AfD in 2011 also ended in deletion, not much has changed since. Constantine  ✍  17:04, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Speedy Keep Sure, you could use the BIORELATED argument, but the article has 8 sources, which is more than enough for the article to pass WP:GNG. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 344917661X (talk • contribs) 18:25, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Yes, but only if one looks at the number and not the quality of the sources, or what it is they reference. Five references out of eight are about his parentage and family, not himself (textbook BIORELATED). Isolated entries in Teen Vogue and ¡Hola! are not the stuff of GNG, either, unless the concept of notability has changed: these are neither reliable sources nor do they provide independent, unbiased coverage of the subject, nor is it over any significant period of time, nor, and let me repeat this, because of anything he has done other than being born and being a member of a royal family. About the only "notable" thing I can see here is his guest appearance in B&B, but that is not a criterion for notability either per WP:ENTERTAINER or any common-sense definition of notability. I doubt this would qualify him for an entry in IMDB, let alone here. Constantine   ✍  18:56, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Greece-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Denmark-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:05, 30 June 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:06, 30 June 2018 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Weak Keep as he is a member of the deposed Greek royal family and the extant Danish royal family. He seems notable enough through google searches (written about in Vogue, Vanity Fair, news.com.au, etc.) and got a decent amount of attention for his little stint in acting. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 15:43, 1 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nomination. Nothing notable here; just the ordinary skin-deep coverage of members of royal or ex-royal families. ——Chalk19 (talk) 11:58, 2 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep. Personally, I would delete at once, but under the present guidelines this boy meets all criteria for a page: he has a legitimate title and is related, however tenuously, to almost all the crowned heads of state in history. Something needs to change, at present even the divorced wives of the lowliest of Britain’s peers qualify for a page. One such page uses a source for notability that the subject: “appeared in the Royal Ascot carriage procession.” So until the criteria changes, we have to keep this German (no Greek blood at all) princeling. Giano    (talk) 19:26, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep If I read things correctly, he is currently 3rd in line to be Pretender to the Greek throne, which I think is enough. When his brother has male triplets, things might change. It's a pity that Notability (royalty) failed to be adapted, or we would have a clear answer on that point. Johnbod (talk) 21:46, 4 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Comment Editors who are interested in this discussion for deletion may also be interested in his brother's. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 14:59, 5 July 2018 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   20:44, 7 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep per the fact that there are eight sources, so he has received some coverage, and is a member of a royal family. Tillerh11 (talk) 01:21, 8 July 2018 (UTC)
 * Keep agree per . Emily Khine (talk) 07:49, 12 July 2018 (UTC)


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