Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince George William of Hanover (born 1880)


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The result was delete. Tone 09:34, 21 August 2020 (UTC)

Prince George William of Hanover (born 1880)

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Genealogical entry; see WP:NOTGENEALOGY policy. No indication of notability as defined by WP:BASIC and WP:GNG. The sources cited in the article are blogs and genealogy publications along with some routine coverage. None of that qualifies as "significant coverage in reliable sources", i.e. WP:SIGCOV. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Austria-related deletion discussions. Surtsicna (talk) 12:45, 13 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Delete nothing truly of note about this person.John Pack Lambert (talk) 18:05, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete non-notable. Nika2020 (talk) 21:23, 13 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and the other comments above, non notable person.Smeat75 (talk) 00:39, 14 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete: Unless you can be notable for having ten names (Georg Wilhelm Christian Albert Edward Alexander Friedrich Waldemar Ernst Adolf, this is a name worthy of a Monty Python sketch), this is nothing more than a genealogical record. The topic fails WP:GNG and WP:BASIC. There are no reliable sources independent of the subject that cover anything directly and indepth about this individual because they have done absolutely nothing notable. Being related to a public figure is not notable WP:INVALIDBIO WP:NOTINHERITED. Wikipedia is WP:NOTGENEALOGY of non-notable members in royal families.  // Timothy ::  talk  05:16, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep: This is outrrageous, and an attempt to write important aspects of the history of the Duchy of Brunswick and of the German Empire out of the history. He was the firstborn son of the last crownprince of Hannover, and thus Hereditary Prince of Hanover and Hereditary Prince for the Duchy of Brunswick. He died in a much talked about car-accident of it's time, wich is referenced in several books. Most important he was suggested as Duke of Brunswick in 1906, but this was turned down by the German Bundesrat on 28 February 1907. His death in 1912 had the unexpected consequence, that his only surviving brother Ernest Augustus was sent to Berlin to thank the Emperor for his condolence upon the death of George William. Ernest Augustus met the daughter of the Emperor, they fell in love, were married and he was eventually granted the Duchy of Brunswick. Since neither the the nominator ' nor any of the other four users (', ', ' & ) who have commented on the nomination so far have cared to comment or look into these aspects of the life and death of George William, Hereditary Prince of Hanover then their comments and arguments so far are erroneous and can not be given any truly weight in this nomination discussion. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 07:32, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment- all User:Oleryhlolsson has done is repeat information in the article and then insult the other editors in this discussion. Of course I looked at the article before commenting. "They don't know what they are talking about so their views don't count" is a personal attack.Smeat75 (talk) 10:44, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * So have you looked at the article again? Or are you merely interested in claiming that I should have written something that I haven't? Oleryhlolsson (talk) 10:52, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * "all User:Oleryhlolsson has done is repeat information in the article" well yes - but first AFTER I had made research on the subject, found sourches, and made four updates to this article. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 11:05, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * I have looked at it and I find the idea that someone can be notable for providing a matchmaking opportunity by dying to be, quite frankly, ridiculous. That the subject of this article was ever considered a potential duke of Brunswick is new to me; the German Wikipedia's articles about him and his father do not mention it and I cannot find it on Google Books. It is very well possible that there is a "significant coverage" of the subject somewhere but I struggle to find it; the sources you provided are mere death and marriage announcements; see WP:ROUTINE. Surtsicna (talk) 11:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * This question had as far as I can tell substantial coverages in the medias of the time, besides it was mentioned occasionally or frequently in the years after that. So far the only newspapers I've consulted are the Danish ones but in the period September 1906 to March 1907 this question/matter was mentioned at least 30 times in Danish newspapers alone (and not all possible results are shown in the searches, so 30 is a minimum). I would expect some coverages in newspapers from other countries as well. Here is a list of Danish newspapers from this period, where I found this topic mentioned:
 * NATIONALTIDENDE (1876-1931), 14. september 1906
 * DAGENS NYHEDER (1868-1931), 14. september 1906
 * Kongelig allernaadigst privilegeret Horsens Avis eller Skanderborg Amtstidende (1842-1961), 14. september 1906
 * Den til Forsendelse med de Kongelige Brevposter privilegerede Berlingske Politiske og Avertissementstidende (1833-1935), 14. september 1906
 * Lolland-Falsters Stifts-Tidende (1835-1960), 14. september 1906
 * LEMVIG FOLKEBLAD (1874-2007), 16. september 1906
 * HOLSTEBRO DAGBLAD (1881-1983), 16. september 1906
 * MORSØ FOLKEBLAD (1877-), 17. september 1906
 * Næstved Tidende. Sydsjællands Folkeblad (1866-1918), 22. september 1906
 * SLAGELSE-POSTEN (1867-1916), 27. september 1906
 * SLAGELSE-POSTEN (1867-1916), 27. september 1906 (2nd edition)
 * NATIONALTIDENDE (1876-1931), 28. september 1906
 * Viborg Stifts Folkeblad (1877-), 28. september 1906
 * AALBORG AMTSTIDENDE (1889-1971), 29. september 1906
 * RANDERS DAGBLAD OG FOLKETIDENDE (1874-1970), 29. september 1906
 * FREDERIKSBORG AMTS AVIS (1874-), 30. september 1906
 * NÆSTVED TIDENDE. SYDSJÆLLANDS FOLKEBLAD (1866-1918), 6. oktober 1906
 * KONGELIG ALLERNAADIGST PRIVILEGERET HORSENS AVIS ELLER SKANDERBORG AMTSTIDENDE (1842-1961), 11. oktober 1906
 * Fredericia Dagblad (1890-), 11. oktober 1906
 * Kallundborg Avis (1857-1922), 11. oktober 1906
 * Jyllandsposten (1871-1937), 11. oktober 1906
 * Dagens Nyheder (1868-1931), 11. oktober 1906
 * Frederiksborg Amts Avis (1874-), 12. oktober 1906
 * NATIONALTIDENDE (1876-1931), 13. oktober 1906
 * KONGELIG ALLERNAADIGST PRIVILEGERET HORSENS AVIS ELLER SKANDERBORG AMTSTIDENDE (1842-1961), 13. november 1906
 * NATIONALTIDENDE (1876-1931), 18. december 1906
 * KØBENHAVN (1889-1928), 13. januar 1907
 * DAGENS NYHEDER (1868-1931), 11. marts 1907
 * LOLLAND-FALSTERS STIFTS-TIDENDE (1835-1960), 16. marts 1907
 * I also found stories about his pour health, and that he, very briefly, in late 1906 was offered the crown of Serbia. I've added something about this as well to the article.
 * Whether we choose to call his brothers way to the heart of his wife and the throne of Brunswick for ridiculous, funny, interesting, curious or something else that's one point, but the line of events was never the less as described. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 13:12, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * that's a zillion; can you choose WP:THREE that make the best case for notability? --JBL (talk) 00:40, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep: Per Oleryhlolsson as I feel like that would make someone pretty noteable. Piratesswoop (talk) 20:54, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Comment: The sources listed above are all about the death of Prince Albert of Prussia and Duke John Albert of Mecklenburg becoming Duke of Brunswick, they do not address Prince George William directly or in-depth and contain no details about his life, just brief mentions of his name. If anyone can point me to RS that do address the subject directly and in-depth about something he is notable for, please let me know. I will add them to the article and request this nomination be withdrawn.  // Timothy ::  talk  22:17, 15 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per previous arguments. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 73.110.217.186 (talk) 16:14, 16 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Formalia This article was selected for deletion, as creator  of the article have you any comments in that respect? Oleryhlolsson (talk) 12:19, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * West Virginian says he is fine with the deletions and asks not to be involved. Surtsicna (talk) 12:26, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Fine but it wasn't visible to my eyes, that he had been notified, therefore this formalia. Oleryhlolsson (talk) 12:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)


 * Keep per Oleryhlolsson. -- Necrothesp (talk) 15:38, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom and Timothy's statement that the sources provided by Oleryhlolsson don't even cover the subject with more than passing mentions. The anecdote about his death being a royal matchmaker is found (unsourced) in the articles of Ernest Augustus and Victoria Louise, so it's not like this page is the only location of this information. JoelleJay (talk) 20:08, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete  per nom and the comment above. Smeat75 (talk) 21:54, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Keep per WP:SIGCOV - strange to our ears, he was a leading dynastic and perennial candidate for several "jobs" as head of state of several countries. Bearian (talk) 23:48, 17 August 2020 (UTC)
 * could you indicate WP:THREE sources that show significant coverage? --JBL (talk) 00:16, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * The Brunswick succession story is one of the most important claims in the article (for the "matchmaking", we don't need a standalone biography). Interestingly, the German Wikipedia claims that it was the youngest brother who was suggested as successor, not the subject here. The Danish sources given in the article don't really convince me otherwise. Weak delete unless this can be cleared up. —Kusma (t·c) 09:02, 18 August 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete per WP:TNT. I agree that the sourcing is one-sided and poor. I did look for sources online, and they are either blogs and/or alternate history novels; the pretense is that if he'd lived and Hitler had been deposed, he'd been Emperor of Germany, and one bizarre book that claims he was Jewish. Bearian (talk) 14:32, 18 August 2020 (UTC)


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