Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince Jaime, Count of Bardi


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The result was Keep and rename. (non-admin closure) (t &#183; c)  buidhe  22:12, 12 February 2021 (UTC)

Prince Jaime, Count of Bardi

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No indication of being notable. Makes a big play of being royal in a long dead royal house. Fails WP:BIO. Possibly notable via the UNHCR.  scope_creep Talk  20:09, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Netherlands-related deletion discussions. Shellwood (talk) 20:14, 5 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep and rename to Jaime de Bourbon de Parme. He's notable but not under the current puff name. gidonb (talk) 02:42, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Notable in what way?   scope_creep Talk  02:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * In the WP:GNG way. No need to argue, this nomination will fail miserably. This is where I AGREE with you: it is unfair that people enherit titles and get coverage and appointments based on linneage. WP cannot resolve that. As an encyclopedia, we are descriptive, not prescriptive. gidonb (talk) 12:24, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Comment At The Italian Wikipedia, for the same article is at Afd: The same rationale for delete is being made there, principally that the royal house is long dead, from 1851. It is a null career. He is not a royal prince. Hope that helps!    scope_creep Talk  02:44, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename to Jaime de Bourbon de Parme. There seem to be plenty of independent reliable sources confirming that he is a notable Dutch diplomat, under that name. DrKay (talk) 12:02, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep but rename: Per Plenty of coverage in a Google News search with just the diplomat's full name Jaime de Bourbon de Parme. VocalIndia (talk) 13:46, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I wasn't arguing. I never saw the diplomat thing. I figured it would be UNHCR stuff.    scope_creep Talk  13:59, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * User:scope_creep, then how about withdrawing because of this WP:BEFORE error? gidonb (talk) 15:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Could do, if somebody wants to volunteer to do the work.   scope_creep Talk  15:09, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Which work? gidonb (talk) 15:26, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Rename I guess, and de-puff it.   scope_creep Talk  15:30, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * User:scope_creep, if you withdraw and do not close, the person who closes will deal with the renaming. That is a perfectly reasonable expectation from anyone who closes and from the direction of this discussion. If the article is not written from an NPOV perspective, just put the correct template on the article. AfDs are not meant for article improvement! If we tie these, we get too many AfDs. We do already! gidonb (talk) 17:01, 7 February 2021 (UTC)
 * Nomination Withdrawn. Please close.   scope_creep Talk  17:04, 7 February 2021 (UTC)


 * Keep per WP:SNOW and WP:GNG; then move. Bearian (talk) 18:16, 8 February 2021 (UTC)


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