Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prince Umberto of Savoy-Aosta


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The result was delete. Sarahj2107 (talk) 10:13, 27 August 2016 (UTC)

Prince Umberto of Savoy-Aosta

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Obscure 7-year-old child whose only claim to fame so far is his position to succeed his father. This article relies heavily on one source as this child is not really covered. And as there is not much information about him, it is padded out with information in which he plays an incidental part. Re5x (talk) 09:59, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Keep as future heir to a royal house. The fact Italy is now a republic is irrelevant. Many monarchists will one day consider him to be their king. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:03, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
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 * Delete. While we grant notability to the line of succession in an active royal line that actually holds title in a country that's actually a monarchy, nothing in Wikipedia's rules extends that to the line of succession for a title which exists only on paper and holds no actual power over anything in the real world. If and when he actually holds whatever now passes for the throne, there might be a legitimate basis for an article to be created, but being an heir to a paper throne is not enough to exempt a person from having to pass WP:GNG on the sourcing. Bearcat (talk) 17:22, 19 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete While actual claimants to a throne might be notable, possible future claimants if they outlive their predecssors are not default notable.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:24, 20 August 2016 (UTC)
 * Comment The claim that monarchists will one day consider them their king assumes A-he will outlive his father (which is admittedly fairly likely), B-the monarchists will not be so alienated by his actions that they desert him (which could happen, although in that case his actions might make him notable) and C-there will still be Italian monarchists after the death of his father, something that we do not know will be the case.John Pack Lambert (talk) 08:26, 20 August 2016 (UTC)


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