Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Tone 20:24, 20 May 2011 (UTC)

Princess Maria-Olympia of Greece and Denmark

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Episode #5 in the Great Greek Revolution in Wikipedia – a revolution that comes rather late, given that the Greek Monarchy was formally abolished by plebiscite in 1974 and at least as of as of 2007 it was clear that not all Pokémon characters are notable. As for her younger siblings, this article does not claim notability and I could find no evidence that she is notable. Per our notability guidelines (the real ones, not the imaginary ones sometimes mentioned by Wikipedia's contingent of royalty watchers), just being the grand child of a deposed monarch does not make someone notable. Precedents:


 * WP:Articles for deletion/Prince Constantine Alexios of Greece and Denmark
 * WP:Articles for deletion/Prince Achileas-Andreas of Greece and Denmark
 * WP:Articles for deletion/Prince Odysseas-Kimon of Greece and Denmark
 * WP:Articles for deletion/Prince Aristidis-Stavros of Greece and Denmark

Follow the links if you want to see policy-based arguments or heated discussions. Hans Adler 09:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC) Hans Adler 09:11, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * PS: The culture of stamp- and Pokémon-collecting in Wikipedia is not the subject's fault. I have seen photos of her, on which she looks like a nice and sensible teenage girl. I have no reason to insult her and I don't think I have done that. And of course the inevitable outcome of this AfD will not prevent anyone from creating a proper article for her if and when she becomes notable. But for the moment we fortunately don't have reason to assume that she will become a notorious socialite. Hans Adler 15:52, 13 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Keep The subject is a princess of more than one country and so her standing in Greece is not vital. She is notable, being covered in detail in sources such as Real Princesses.  Pokemon seem quite irrelevant - the only reason for mentioning them seems to be to insult the subject.  It is our policy that Wikipedia is not a forum and so the nominator should not being using this as a platform for his anti-royalist views. Colonel Warden (talk) 12:32, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and noting that the "source" cited above by C.W. is not the type of reliable coverage we would need to establish notability. Fut.Perf. ☼ 13:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete due to the precedents cited by the nom under which the articles about all of her brothers were deleted. However, this deletion should be without prejudice to re-creation if she becomes notable in the future (for example, as the kind of socialite frequently featured in Vanity Fair (magazine)). --Metropolitan90 (talk) 13:49, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete per nom, and per Metrpolitan90's comment.IrishStephen (talk) 15:20, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * delete - a redirect to Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece should suffice here.--Scott Mac 16:31, 13 May 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of People-related deletion discussions.  — • Gene93k (talk) 02:45, 15 May 2011 (UTC)


 * Many, although not all, Wikiepdians have long felt that all royalty are notable automatically (including me). In this case, however, a merger to Pavlos, Crown Prince of Greece probably should be good enough compromise for all of these articles. Bearian (talk) 23:14, 19 May 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.