Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Marie Alix of Schaumburg-Lippe


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. signed,Rosguill talk 03:27, 27 July 2023 (UTC)

Princess Marie Alix of Schaumburg-Lippe

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Recreation of Marie Alix, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein. Celia Homeford (talk) 11:14, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women, Royalty and nobility,  and Germany. Celia Homeford (talk) 11:14, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Oppose. No reason given as to why this article should be deleted as opposed to a previous one which may have been quite different in content. Bermicourt (talk) 12:31, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep there are now two referenced German newspaper obituaries (I did not use a third that seemed to be derivative on one of those used) and a third reference, a comprehensive magazine obituary in French. Our access to German newspaper archives (and expertise to utilize them) is particularly bad, but I'm confident that there's been more reporting on her over her long life. Jahaza (talk) 14:33, 19 July 2023 (UTC) Updated Jahaza (talk) 18:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Comment. There appear to be two previous deletion discussions related to this biography:
 * Articles for deletion/Marie Alix, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein (August 2020)
 * Articles for deletion/Peter, Duke of Schleswig-Holstein (October 2020)
 * Note that her husband Peter's biography has also been recreated since the previous discussions. pburka (talk) 16:06, 19 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Comment: If the page is kept, then Marie Alix, Duchess of Schleswig-Holstein should probably be made a redirect to this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 2601:249:9301:D570:F008:CA5B:C628:CD1F (talk) 21:55, 19 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Delete Non-notable per previous deletion discussion. Notability is not determined by marriage, it doesn't appear her husband is that notable anyway. WCM email 07:37, 20 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Notability is also not determined by previous notability discussions. She's died in the interim, which led to the creation of additional RS. I would support redirecting her husband's article.Jahaza (talk) 18:05, 24 July 2023 (UTC)
 * A couple of obituaries doesn't establish notability, merely having a title doesn't establish notability, I see nothing in the article to establish notability. Hence, my comment is based upon WP:GNG and not the previous discussion, I don't think her husband was notable either.  The only reason for mentioning it, given there is nothing per WP:GNG, was the previous discussion reached precisely the same conclusion. WCM email 10:49, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Actually, having journalistic obituaries does establish notability. Notability is presumptively established under WP:BASIC when an individual has "received significant coverage in multiple published secondary sources that are reliable, intellectually independent of each other, and independent of the subject" and multiple journalistic obituaries (as opposed to purchased obituaries) will establish that. Jahaza (talk) 21:35, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


 * Keep. Appears to satisfy WP:GNG with the obituaries. -- Necrothesp (talk) 12:24, 25 July 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. If newspapers chose to print (unpaid) obituaries, then she must be notable per WP:GNG. pburka (talk) 22:06, 25 July 2023 (UTC)


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