Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Marie Luise Charlotte of Hesse-Kassel


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The result was   delete. Nobody seems to really want to keep this, so... deleted until somebody does the newspaper archive search discussed below.  Sandstein  18:01, 22 September 2014 (UTC)

Princess Marie Luise Charlotte of Hesse-Kassel

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A made up title ("Princess Frederick Augustus of Anhalt-Dessau") and lots of genealogy, but no indication of any sort of notability. She existed, had a title and family. That is all we get from the article, and that is all we can possiby get. The article about her husband, however, is even more modest, lacking a made-up title. Surtsicna (talk) 08:43, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Delete, per nom and WP:BLPFAMILY. --Edcolins (talk) 11:08, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Germany-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 18:18, 14 September 2014 (UTC)
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 * Comment Actually, "Princess Frederick Augustus of Anhalt-Dessau" is exactly how a polite pedant of her time would have referred to her. In practice, usage was more casual, so she would normally have been referred to as "Princess Frederick of Anhalt", which does actually find contemporary sources when used as a search term - . Having said that, while the daughter of one sovereign duke, the sister-in-law of another, mother-in-law of a Grand Duke of Luxembourg and aunt of the then Princess of Wales (and godmother of one of her daughters) could almost certainly be shown to pass WP:GNG by someone with access to an extensive archive of 19th-century newspapers and willingness to spend a few days trawling through their social columns, I am not going to bother. PWilkinson (talk) 15:33, 20 September 2014 (UTC)
 * I am not certain that even "someone with access to an extensive archive of 19th-century newspapers" would be able to show that this person is notable. It would be helpful if you could at least point to two sources showing that Princess Frederick of Anhalt herself (not just her family) has received significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject. If she was notable, I would have expected Google Books to return more than a couple of passing mentions . --Edcolins (talk) 08:41, 21 September 2014 (UTC)
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