Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Princess Sofía, Duchess of Calabria


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The result was delete. Any redirect to Prince Pedro, Duke of Calabria is a matter for editors.  Sandstein  12:20, 7 August 2020 (UTC)

Princess Sofía, Duchess of Calabria

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There is no indication of notability. Virtually all online coverage of the subject comes from genealogy websites, and indeed Wikipedia's article about her amounts to nothing more than a genealogical entry. Since the subject utterly fails WP:GNG, I do not think Wikipedia should cover her. Surtsicna (talk) 10:05, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
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 * Keep or draftify. I think may be some maintenance tags might be better, if it's to be kept. Regards ( F5pillar ---/  Hey wassup🖋📩 ) 10:10, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Okay, but why? Is there a significant coverage of the subject in reliable sources? Surtsicna (talk) 12:18, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak delete. I am not seeing too many reliable sources attesting to her notability. Being a member of royalty, contrary to what has been proposed in the past on the matter, does not automatically confer notability to the subject. I will, however, note the similarities between this article and that of the (male) Prince Pedro, Duke of Calabria and, more importantly, her predecessor, Princess Anne, Duchess of Calabria. A full list of subjects deemed notable can be found on Duchess of Calabria. When you go to List of consorts of the Kingdom of the Two Sicilies, Princess Sofía redirects to Prince Pedro's article. I'm at a weak delete because of the number of highly similar articles to this one. Donna Spencer talk-to-me ⛅ 16:47, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Weak keep. She is the consort to the Head of the House of Bourbon-Two Sicilies. While children might not be, IMO consorts and heads of houses (whether sovereigns or formerly so) are notable. -- Willthacheerleader18 (talk) 17:42, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Whether she is the consort to the head of the house is disputed but in any case, her relationship to a notable individual cannot confer notability on her. See WP:INVALIDBIO. I cannot find the coverage necessary to establish her notability per WP:GNG. Can you? Surtsicna (talk) 18:16, 30 July 2020 (UTC)

Redirect to husband Pam  D  08:34, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete  per nom.Smeat75 (talk) 18:59, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete. The bulk of her article space is taken up listing the full names and birthdates of her numerous children (most of them minors). If people outside of the narrow demographic that follows formerly royal houses cared about her, there would be sources. JoelleJay (talk) 21:01, 30 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Delete being the consort to someone whose family was deposed from power decades ago is not a default sign of notability and the sourcing is not there to establish notability.John Pack Lambert (talk) 17:21, 31 July 2020 (UTC)
 * Redirect per WP:OUTCOMES. A run of the mill heiress, she married well and became a stay-at-home mother of seven. There's a bit of coverage of her on social pages and social media, but it's not significant coverage; just rather passing mentions on wedding guest lists and in obituaries. We have in the past redirected the consorts of nobility. Bearian (talk) 21:51, 5 August 2020 (UTC)


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