Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Printakid


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was delete. - Mailer Diablo 16:22, 15 August 2006 (UTC)

Printakid
Non-notable advertising. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 00:47, 9 August 2006 (UTC)

Please explain the difference between that article and the others in the Commerce websites category. --Vercasso 03:19, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * The difference Printakid isn't eBay. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 03:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Delete per nom and fails WP:CORP from what I can tell. Yank  sox  04:09, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Weak Delete, the delete per nom, but the weakness due to the fact that it gets 6.5k Google hits. That doesn't ensure its notability, and most of it seems to be directory listings and advertisings anyway, but I figured I should offer the evidence as a means to ensure non-biased decision-making when reviewing this article. - Thorne N. Melcher 05:13, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * Thank you for your response and time. I understood that this site was not Ebay, but I saw Zopa and Venus Envy (sex shop) in the encyclopedia. Printakid is a pionner in its domain (children litterature on demand), but I was wondering if the issue was with the article or with the notability of the site. However, if you go in the category Book publishing companies of Canada, the notability is even lower. Anyways, thank you for your response M. Melcher. --Vercasso 18:59, 9 August 2006 (UTC)
 * Comment' I'm all for deleting those, too. Wikipedia isn't a repository of links or random information. Printakid isn't unique to this, there are probably dozens of web sites advertising here right now. -Justin (koavf)·T·C·M 20:12, 9 August 2006 (UTC)


 * I looked again carefully at the Notability (companies and corporations)'s Criteria for companies and corporations, and I think that the article is not subject for deletion, even if some wikipedians are averse to articles about companies.

''A company or corporation is notable if it meets any one of the following criteria:

The company or corporation has been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works whose source is independent of the company itself.''

I think the article Printakid respects those criteria:


 * Printakid is the first and biggest company in North America to create personalized books in which illustrations change. This allows the company to make books for groups that are normally less represented in traditional literature (mixed-race children, children with Down's syndrome, etc.)


 * Because of its innovative concept, Printakid (and the French version of the company Alphakid) was featured in many newspapers, including:
 * the Montreal Gazette (first page of the business section on July 13, 2004.)
 * CyberPresse - La Presse's website - Montreal's largest circulation newspaper. (See article)
 * Canadian Press (that article was reprinted nationally in many newspapers)
 * the Journal de Montreal (a full page on February 7, 2004)
 * the Ottawa Sun (on December 10, 2004)
 * the Montreal Mirror - see the smaller mention at the lettre P, they put on their web site)
 * Mixed media watch - article and discussions about the vocabulary used to describe different ethnicities.
 * The Record - Kitchener
 * Elle Quebec, Clin d'oeil and other women's magazines

If needed, I could scan and provide proof of many other notable articles.


 * Again, because of its notable concept, in the last 3 years, Printakid and Alphakid have been featured (not paid publicity) in over 10 Quebecer and Canadian television and radio shows:
 * on TVA Television, six times
 * on TQS Television, two times
 * on Global Television
 * on City TV’s Cityline show, in partnership with Style at home magazine (see smaller mention put on their website)
 * CKMF radio show
 * CKOI radio show
 * Mix 96 Montreal
 * CBC Radio
 * 940 News (Montreal)
 * Radio-Canada - the National station
 * CHFI Toronto Sheila Walsh show

If needed, I could transfer and provide some Mpegs or mp3s of the actual shows.

In the smaller Quebec market, any book that sells over 3000 copies (in its lifetime) is considered a best-seller (all categories of books included). Half the books of the company have surpassed that number, and the others will in the next six months. I don't imagine that notability, in that area, has to be comparable to Ebay or Amazon. I am willing to change parts of the article that would seem too much "advertisement" to some wikipedians, because I understand their concerns. However, on the notability criteria, as defined by the actual rules, I see less ground for exclusion. --Vercasso 16:56, 12 August 2006 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.