Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Prison-Ashram Project


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. Closed with no prejudice against speedy renomination. (non-admin closure) Bryce  ( talk  &#124;  contribs ) 01:03, 4 February 2012 (UTC)

Prison-Ashram Project

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This subject fails WP:ORG. I hoped to find information that would pass criteria at WP:NGO, but I found very little in-depth coverage by solidly reliable sources, and lots of mentions in articles by interrelated nonprofits that struck me as promotional. The "sister project" that might make this group international fails to bring this separately named and administered organization closer to notability. Nothing about this subject's coverage or activities easily satisfies WP:BASIC or WP:ORG. JFHJr (㊟) 07:44, 14 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Organizations-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 14:43, 14 January 2012 (UTC)

I've added references to sources that have no connection to Prison-Ashram Project or its parent organization, Human Kindness Foundation. I believe this satisfies the "significant coverage" guideline. There are more sources available, but I don't want to clutter up the article just to add more sources. If specific sources that I've added seem too closely related to Prison-Ashram Project, I will replace them with others, so if the current version is not satisfactory, please let me know which sources you object to. Thank you! — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hope4444 (talk • contribs) 15:36, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Regarding the sources offered at the article, I removed two sources altogether: one was a blog, not a reliable source (see WP:BLOG, WP:RS). Another, supporting a block quote defining "ashram" (a bit of a WP:COATRACK), did not contain the text of the block quote, and had nothing to do with the prison program. You also added a cite to an article by Bo Lozoff. How is it you didn't think it was too closely related? At any rate, none of it is significant coverage. JFHJr (㊟) 18:03, 16 January 2012 (UTC)

I think the Prison Ashram Project and Bo Lozoff are worthy of Wikipedia, but their current entries don't give the topics justice. I'm afraid I don't have the time to beef them up, provide history and context, etc., right now. Espertus (talk) 19:34, 16 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I see you didn't cast a !vote. I've found virtually no reliable third party sources on this entity. WP:MERCY/WP:ILIKEIT aside, what exactly makes this organization "worthy," and what notability guideline can you point to in support? JFHJr (㊟) 21:23, 16 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 12:21, 21 January 2012 (UTC)

 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Armbrust, B.Ed. Let's talk about my edits? 17:06, 28 January 2012 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.