Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Progress: Its Law and Cause

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Progress: Its Law and Cause
Essayistic, copy-paste from an unverified source. (nomination is by Oliverkeenan)


 * Delete for reasons afforementioned. Oliver Keenan 13:04, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete. It is an excerpt from some old textbook on evolution, old enough for copyrights to have expired I think. But not an article, and title is not good enough for a redirect. Sjakkalle 13:17, 12 Apr 2005 (UTC)
 * Delete Ditto. Mwanner 13:18, Apr 12, 2005 (UTC)
 * Keep -- Herbert Spencer is an important thinker, positively seminal in some respects, and this was the title of an important article of his, marking a stage in the consolidation of his ideas in the late 1850s. Not problem with copyvio given the age, but I agree its unencyclopedic just to give a huge block of that article. Instead, there should be a paraphrase of the article, along with an explanation of its context in terms of English history and Spencer's biography. Clean-up, in other words, not deletion. --Christofurio 02:56, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC) (Am I a hopeless inclusionist yet)?

It's a copyvio, as was clearly stated at the bottom of the page. RickK 05:09, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)
 * It is obvious that the head and foot of the article is a copyvio, the middle of the text is an excerpt from a 19th century textbook. Have not copyrights expired by then? Sjakkalle 07:01, 13 Apr 2005 (UTC)


 * Copyright lasts 95 year in most cases. So yes, most things from before 1920 is safe (because the term used to be 75 years, and did not retroactively extend). But anyway, this is not encyclopedic, so delete. Radiant_* 08:56, Apr 13, 2005 (UTC)


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