Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Progressive Fighting System


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Delete as unsourced, without any verifiable, third party coverage. Given that this appears to be the rationale behind the consensus for deletion, if sources are found, ask me and I'll restore the article. Cheers, Wily D 14:34, 24 July 2007 (UTC)

Progressive Fighting System

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Non-notable organisation seems to be one or a small group of schools, also unsourced.--Nate1481(t/c) 08:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep Highly notable and large organization, many locations , e.g. Germany , Virginia , Canada , , the U.K. , , , , , , Greece , Tennessee , California , , Indiana , Denmark , Sweden , and on and on. It's a major org. teaching Bruce Lee's Jeet Kune Do, with notable senior instructors of the system besides its founder Paul Vunak. Its videos and recent executive PFS system are notable facts about the org. itself. JJL 13:47, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Could some that be added to the article? There had been an notability tag on it for several months hence the afd--Nate1481(t/c) 14:31, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * In particular, could you add independent sources? The list of links above are homepages for the organiization(s), as far as I can see. --B. Wolterding 14:43, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * There was a detailed article on the organization, rather than the founder, in the issue of Black Belt Magazine that was on the stand in Feb. 2006 (hence probably the April 2006 issue--the one with Chuck Norris on the cover), but I cannot find a useful online archive at their site. This is the main media source for the martial arts. I'll keep looking for the more specific reference. JJL 04:13, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Debate shouldn't be closed till you've had a chance to look, would any libraries have back issues? Issue number/Date & page number should be fine sources don't have to be online, however the articel would need to state it is a major' org not just an org.--Nate1481(t/''c) 08:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete having multiple locations does not make one notable. Having information only from pages directly connected to the organization also fails. No convincing material to establish notability. NobutoraTakeda 16:34, 17 July 2007 (UTC) This user has been banned.
 * Err is this a vote? I thought it was a discussion? As Peter says it's a valid comment--Nate1481(t/c) 08:21, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Strike through removed. Giggy  UCP 22:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)

Note: This debate has been included in the list of martial arts-related deletions. —Nate1481(t/c) 08:51, 17 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete having multiple locations does not make one notable. Having information only from pages directly connected to the organization also fails. No convincing material to establish notability. Person may be banned but the comment is valid.Peter Rehse 03:30, 19 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep per some (but not all) of the sources cited by JJL, this looks notable to me. Burntsauce 17:28, 20 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete no references in-article. Will (talk) 21:03, 22 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete People in many different places might practice it, but what about the average person in society? Without any reliable third-party sources independent of martial arts trainers available, the whole world won't know about it. Search engine results don't seem to include any mentions in newspapers, magazines and so on. Hence it isn't that notable. Has there ever been a widely viewed documentary made about this style? If so, it may have been a different story.--Kylohk 11:10, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete this is a non notable organisation, fails WP:ORG. Not referenced at all.  Giggy  UCP 22:27, 23 July 2007 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.