Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Project Icarus (Interstellar Probe Design Study)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   no consensus. (WP:NPASR). (Non-administrator closure) NorthAmerica1000 09:34, 11 June 2014 (UTC)

Project Icarus (Interstellar Probe Design Study)

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Non notable project. 1 RSish link, the rest all self published. Article created by member of group (per his comment on article talk) Gaijin42 (talk) 19:10, 14 May 2014 (UTC)
 * Given that we're only a few months away from the project's estimated completion date, I'd rather see us have this conversation after that few months has passed. If the project generates significant media coverage at that time it can be improved upon. If it doesn't, it should be deleted. &mdash; Gopher65talk 00:13, 15 May 2014 (UTC)
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Blakeredfield (talk) 12:45, 17 May 2014 (UTC)Project Icarus ran a starship design competition in 2013 which generated research options for interstellar flight capable vehicles. These design studies are summarized here: http://www.icarusinterstellar.org/project-icarus-workshop-winner-announced-andreas-heins-ghost-future-plans/. Given there are only a handful of serious researchers studying interstellar flight and that this design competition alone doubled the number of studies for such vehicles, their work is both of scientific value and beneficial to directing education in astronomy, astrophysics and spacecraft design. ie, what these guys are doing has value, as does its presence on wikipedia. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Blakeredfield (talk • contribs) 12:36, 17 May 2014 (UTC)

Inplus1691 (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2014 (UTC) For disclosure I am a member of the Project Icarus team and Icarus Interstellar (and new to wikipedia editing). This worldwide project team of over 30 people is voluntary and our research continues although the target date for completion of the end of this year is at risk (at least there are no cost overruns!). The project has been regularly written about in Spaceflight magazine and contributes peer reviewed papers to the Journal of the British Interplanetary Society a respected and leading journal in the field (details being added to the main wiki page now). We are developing teams at various universities such as Drexel University in the USA and the Technical University of Munich and have worked with others on MSc Projects related to our work (eg Rutgers, USA). In fact we've been so busy we have not been updating the Wiki pages although I am advised we should be careful about doing so anyway. Some searching by independent editors should hopefully reveal a litany of references to Project Icarus which would support keeping this page. Inplus1691 (talk) 11:03, 20 May 2014 (UTC)

I have added a number of sources about this project and Icarus Interstellar to the Icarus Interstellar AfD page. Mgilster (talk) 23:40, 20 May 2014 (UTC) 
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, j⚛e deckertalk 15:41, 22 May 2014 (UTC)




 * Keep. search on just Project Icarus gets more hits.  There are news reports including Project Icarus and a foundation giving United Airlines a sustainability award!  Seems notable, big-scale project, a non-profit, what's not to like. -- do  ncr  am  01:51, 25 May 2014 (UTC)
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 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, NorthAmerica1000 10:07, 30 May 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment from potentially conflicted member: At this moment I would count MSNBC as RS and the 3 BIS references as secondary sources as well. The BIS is closely involved but has independent peer journals. Further, though I have not reviewed them, the sheer number and domain quality of Mgilster's sources linked above have a good likelihood of providing significant support. So I'd be a keep, and I think the two self-identified volunteers above can be relied to find additional reliable independent content even if all the known sources don't pan out. All we need is enough independent Wikipedians to put the fixes through. Frieda Beamy (talk) 14:38, 30 May 2014 (UTC)

I have updated the Icarus Interstellar article and noted many sources on the Icarus Interstellar AfD page, some of which apply to Project Icarus specifically. I am leaving on vacation for most of June, so I ask that we keep the Project Icarus (Interstellar Probe Design Study) page for now until I or others can improve it. Mgilster (talk) 22:31, 30 May 2014 (UTC)
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