Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Proud Simon


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. the two keep !votes don't show how the band meets WP:MUSIC. No prejudice against recreation once they meet the criteria TravellingCari  02:03, 24 October 2008 (UTC)

Proud Simon

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Non-notable unsigned band that fails WP:MUSIC. No assertion of notability, no independent sources. Recreated by author after being speedy deleted, listing at AfD to garner wider community consensus. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 22:30, 20 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep -This band has been growing on the New York City/Brooklyn Indie Rock Scene for almost 5 years now, with multiple professional album releases (I've been told printing has been in the thousands) and performances in high-profile venues such as the Bowery Ballroom in Lower Manhattan. I agree with user yrletter that this is content that is relevant towards the emerging Indie Rock scene of Brooklyn, NYC, and thusly should be allowed as an addition. —Preceding unsigned comment added by The443 (talk • contribs) 04:22, 21 October 2008 (UTC)  — The443 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * reply - WP:EMERGING is another version of the ol' up-and-coming, next-big-thing argument. We cover subjects after they have emerged into notability, not before.-- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  16:34, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Keep - The article could use improvement, but the band appears to have worked with a number of notable musicians and I don't see any real reason to delete. Fumoses (talk) 23:47, 20 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - Collaboration with a famous musician is not by itself enough to satisfy WP:MUSIC or establish notability. If this band's collaborative efforts are its only claim to fame, its likely in the WP:UPANDCOMING category. Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 03:58, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Wikipedia is not a bureaucracy, or so I'm told. Fumoses (talk) 14:21, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * reply true; but what's your point? As friend Senseless says, notability is not contagious; you can't "catch" it by collaborating with a notable person. -- Orange Mike  &#x007C;   Talk  14:37, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   -- THEN WHO WAS PHONE? (talk) 04:07, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - unsigned band of purely local fame; printings "in the thousands" of their self-released albums(!}; fails WP:MUSIC badly. Just another "up and coming" band. -- Orange Mike   &#x007C;   Talk  12:52, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * FYI This exact same article (word for word) was speedied a few days earlier under CSD A7 (non-notable band). Mister Senseless&trade; (Speak - Contributions) 14:53, 21 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete Doesn't seem to meet WP:MUSIC, no sources. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 18:04, 21 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete - I am unable to find any reliable sources to establish notability. -- Whpq (talk) 16:03, 23 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.