Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Publishing House ERSEN


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The result was   keep. –Juliancolton Tropical Cyclone  01:15, 15 February 2009 (UTC)

Publishing House ERSEN

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The only claim that can be considered a claim of notability is that it is "one of the largest" publishers in Estonia. That is a peacock term that should be avoided and there appears no evidence it is THE largest. The other content basically says it works together with literary agents, which is nothing remarkable for a reliable publisher. I'm nominating this for deletion because there is a complete lack of encyclopedic content and because inclusion of non-content is in my view advertising. Mgm|(talk) 13:32, 10 February 2009 (UTC)


 * Weak delete. Struggling to find any sources, but I do note that this publisher has published the Estonian editions of a number of notable books (e.g. The Da Vinci Code). JulesH (talk) 19:29, 10 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep By looking at the official site, this company is obviously notable viz Penguin Books, all it needs is attention from a native speaker of Estonian. Until that happens it should stay on the Wikipedia as a notable Estonian company with a very poor article to its name. --Mr Accountable (talk) 06:10, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep. A Google Books search supports the claim to be a major publisher, publishing notable authors such as H. G. Wells, Lewis Carroll, Barbara Cartland, Jules Verne, Tami Hoag, Theresa Weir, Catherine Coulter, Diana G. Gallagher, Christina Dodd, and many others. I'm sure that the publisher of these authors in any language will have had significant coverage in reliable sources. I'd love to try and find them but I'm afraid Estonian is one of the few European languages that I can't make head nor tail of. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:28, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment. Fwiw, this Estonian site (presumably a bookseller) lists 1740 of this publisher's books, more than the Google Books search. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:39, 11 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Further comment. This article published by the National Estonian Foundation of Canada refers to Harlequin Enterprises as a similar publisher to ERSEN (try putting the article text into Google Translate), implying both that the two publishers' notability is similar and that the target audience of that web site, presumably Estonian residents in Canada, would be familiar with ERSEN. Phil Bridger (talk) 18:51, 11 February 2009 (UTC)


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