Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pubs of Newtown


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The result was Delete. —Wknight94 (talk) 16:14, 16 September 2007 (UTC)

Pubs of Newtown

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Procedural nom. Very similar to one I nominated a minute ago. This is an expired prod. Pascal.Tesson 06:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Australia-related deletions.   -- Bduke 07:02, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete. WP isnt a travel guide. Mystache 13:58, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete per Mystache. Keb25 14:13, 9 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge with Newtown, New South Wales. Certainly, the Sandringham Hotel, Newtown has played a notable part in Sydney's music scene with at least one song being written about it. Capitalistroadster 02:48, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Keep The article is not written in either directory or travel guide style and discusses the pubs in Newtown in the context of their architectural and historical significance and as a (the?) key part of the cultural and social life of the neighborhood. The subject is clearly notable and merging to Newtown, New South Wales would make that already large article more unwieldly.  The article needs sourcing but by itself that is not a reason to delete.  Tag it as unreferenced and move on although given the recent history of these articles I sense I am fighting an uphill battle. I remain puzzled about what is put in the Yellow Pages in other parts of the world but directory listings and travel guides in Australia usually include information such as addresses and phone numbers that are not in this article.  Also, I doubt that there is a great deal of understanding of the central place and historical significance of pubs in Australian culture especially in inner city neighbourhoods such as Newtown. -- Mattinbgn\talk 13:02, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete unreferenced article giving no context beyond 'companies of a particular type in a specific area' (guide/directory) with links to external sites included in the text. Nuttah68 16:22, 10 September 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment The article may be unreferenced but it does provide more context than a mere listing of businesses in the area. Many of the buildings are architecturally significant and the pubs, especially in that particular neighbourhood are of historical, cultural and social significance.  Any fair reading of the article can see that is more than a list of ,let's say, dry cleaners in Newtown but an attempt (albeit one that needs work)  to write about a significant part of of the social fabric of Newtown. While I understand that WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS is a poor argument, I still find it puzzling in the extreme that this article is written off as a mere directory while every mini mall is somehow entitled to an article that is barely more than a list of tenants. -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete this is nothing but original research, and I seem to recall a policy against that. Each of the references are about individual examples of pubs - there is not a single reference discussing any overall themes about the pubs of Newtown as distinct from any other pubs in Australia. Just because it's verifiable doesn't make it suitable for an article. (yes, I've said all this before.)23:45, 10 September 2007 (UTC) —Preceding unsigned comment added by GarrieIrons (talk • contribs)
 * Comment Yes, its a bit like Groundhog Day but I'll keep trying. :-) -- Mattinbgn\talk 01:35, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * Delete, Wikipedia is not a travel guide. J I P  | Talk 08:22, 11 September 2007 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.