Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pugachev Airport


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. With all the "delete" !voters doing "heel-face turns", there are no longer any arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. Ron Ritzman (talk) 21:54, 19 May 2012 (UTC)

Pugachev Airport

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There is no any reliable sources, which say, that such airport exists. If you see satellite image, you can see, that there is no airfield there: there is only road and channel. Dinamik (talk) 21:04, 10 May 2012 (UTC)
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 * Delete - That isn't a "channel"; that appears to be a freshly-blacktopped runway; and if you zoom in "Pugachev Airport" is marked on Google Maps. However, that isn't enough to be verifiable through reliable sources, and I can't find anything that mentions it beyond the map image itself, which isn't enough. No prejudice against recreation if sources can be found later, and if they can be found during this AfD then I'll instantly change my !vote. - The Bushranger One ping only 06:02, 11 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete have to agree with The Bushranger to delete pending a reliable source. MilborneOne (talk) 18:16, 14 May 2012 (UTC)
 *  Delete  - Per verifiability, our fundamental inclusion criterion is verifiability, and not truth. There may be a Pugachev Airport at the location noted, but I cannot find any reliable sources that verify this let alone significant coverage. -- Whpq (talk) 15:56, 15 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Neutral - I'm not wholly convinced the sources we have a reliable, but I suspect sources exist to satisfy veribiality, however I'm not sure if it is notable. -- Whpq (talk) 22:04, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * This is a case where the gazetteer part of Wikipedia's purpose kicks in - public-use airports that can be verified through reliable sources are notable. - The Bushranger One ping only 04:46, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * I am aware of that argument, but I don't agree that automatically should mean the inclusion of every pieve of land that aircraft land at. -- Whpq (talk) 10:22, 19 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - a search in Cyrillic finds this local website which describes how sad the local citizens were when the helicopters of the 626-th Pugachev helicopter regiment left for the last time in Oct 2011, and this Wikimapia entry which says "The airfield is now disbanded Pugachev helicopter regiment." There is also ru:Пугачёв_(аэродром) which is unsourced and evidently out of date, as it says the helicopter regiment is there; it also says local airlines use it. Sourcing is not the best, but enough to establish that this is not a hoax. JohnCD (talk) 21:55, 17 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 18 May 2012 (UTC)


 * Relisting comment. JohnCD has shown evidence that this airport does indeed exist. More discussion is needed on the issue of "is it notable". --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:08, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Added a search template for "Пугачёвского аэродрома" at the top of this AfD which gives a couple of Google News hits that appear to disprove the nominator's suspicion that the topic of the article does not exist. (I can't read Russian well and I'm relying on Google translate to understand the articles but they are definitely talking about events related to a Pugachev Airport.) --❨Ṩtruthious ℬandersnatch❩ 01:36, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - Stub article for an extant airport, albeit decommissioned. Existence is verified. Would WP be better off with or without this piece? The former, in my estimation. Carrite (talk) 05:05, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * Keep - nice work by JohnCD to find sources; so changing to keep. - The Bushranger One ping only 19:57, 18 May 2012 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.