Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pumphouse Brewery, New Brunswick


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The result was Delete consensus is insufficient RS to establish notability, Gnangarra 02:35, 1 February 2012 (UTC)

Pumphouse Brewery, New Brunswick

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I can find no reliable sources indicating that this establishment meets our notability requirements, at this time. (Note that  there are other establishments elsewhere by the same name). Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:31, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
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 * I note that the creator has just added two awards from a Canadian brewing association, for two of the company's beers. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 22:00, 22 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Comment: Possibly notable, though typically a single location brewpub is unlikely to meet WP:GNG.  Coverage like this  is good, but its about the only one I can find that isn't run of the mill.  Claim of wide distribution of its beer is another plus.  The prior AfDs for Two Brothers Brewing is a good precedent to consider.  If it is deleted, I want to note for the record that the current content is not very substantial.--Milowent • hasspoken  04:00, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Milowent, did you find that Star ref by a Gnews search? I'm curious. It's a very good one: the Star is Canada's largest circulation paper (I think) and is not a local one, either. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 13:19, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I don't recall; I may have followed up my gnews search with a general google search for "pumphouse brewery" and "moncton"--you would think gnews would catch everything like this, but oddly enough it doesn't seem to sometimes. It may have something to do with papers that keep separate pay archives (like the Star; also many British papers), I've never investigated why.--Milowent • hasspoken  17:08, 24 January 2012 (UTC)
 * I did both, Gnews and general but still missed it, as did the creator, I think, who I know was looking, too. Good catch. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:13, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Wait there something screwy here. Greg Nash, cited in the TO article and elsewhere as the creator, is omitted from the establishment's own website as the founder. And we see here that Nash left to set up a new place and brand. All the WP:RS we're finding is about Greg Nash's notable brews, not this place sans Nash. In fact, the current Pumphouse seems to disavow any connection to the previous incarnation, claiming to have been "founded" by someone else the year Nash moved on. So I'm beginning to think that while Nash may be a notable brewer, there is no connection between this place and his old establishment of the same name. I'm still supporting deletion and I believe WP:NOTINHERITED may pertain, as well. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 18:38, 24 January 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete - I just don't see the coverage about this brewery that establishes notability. We have the review of the product in the Star which is good, but beyond that, it gets thin.  With respect to Greg Nash, he was the brewmaster (see ), but that doesn't make him the owner or founder.  In fact, the link cited above simply states he joined the Pumphouse in 2008.  With the other information we have, this just tells us he was hired as a brewmaster. -- Whpq (talk) 17:51, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Oh, I see. Gotcha. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 17:53, 25 January 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete. No significant WP:IRS. A beer review in The Star? If the usually dedicated and persistent Milowent can't find anything more significant, my reasonable search is unlikely to find anything better. Just not enough RS to establish notability. BusterD (talk) 17:27, 31 January 2012 (UTC)
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