Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Punjab Lok Congress


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The result was keep. ✗ plicit  23:56, 9 December 2021 (UTC)

Punjab Lok Congress

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I earlier proposed this article for deletion but the prod tag was deleted by user Curbon7 with a reason that "contesting PROD; party holds a seat in a parliament" which is incorrect because as per this list on the official Punjab Government site Punjab Lok Congress does not hold any seat in the Punjab Legislative Assembly. I tried to reach Curbon7 but they did not reply to my message. The party was founded just 2-3 weeks ago and has not yet participated in any elections. It was in the news due to its founder who is a notable figure otherwise there is no independent coverage. IMO the article should be deleted or merged with its founder's article. Thanks 1.23.212.76 (talk) 11:45, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
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 * Comment: Pretty tough, this one. The party is a split of the Indian National Congress; the split occurred due to a lot of politics involving Amarinder Singh, the founder of the new party, and until a month ago the Punjab Chief Minister. I'd not use the Punjab Vidhan Sabha table in any case; the Anti-defection Law means that sitting MLAs won't risk joining the party just yet, unless it's a big split, especially given the murky political situation in Punjab - elections are due there in 3 months. The split itself recieved a lot of attention for a week or so across India, and as a result I am thinking, without running a BEFORE search, that the party passes the GNG. NCORP (a higher bar) is the criterion that applies (though I feel it already might meet it - not 100% sure though, as I haven't run a check), that said, and given that not much time has passed since the split (and I am getting the idea that it is a major split), I cannot definitively say if WP:LASTING is met yet. For now, I'd suggest keeping the article until the election is done; we'll have a definite idea of whether the party meets NCORP and has LASTING notability by then.  Java  Hurricane  15:21, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * And if it gets deleted now, surely someone will notice the red link / absence of link on 2022 Punjab Legislative Assembly election and just start it all over again. If the party is really going to have candidates for every seat, they'll get enough news coverage between now and March to be independent of the founder, and merging the article into Amarinder Singh would only have served to introduce a lot of chaos there. -- asilvering (talk) 20:23, 25 November 2021 (UTC)
 * NCORP is an inappropriate standard here, WP:NONPROFIT is the correct standard to apply. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 06:27, 27 November 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, ✗  plicit  12:56, 2 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Substantial, independent reliable source coverage separate from the party founder readily available. Satisfies EVENT and the GNG. Regards, --Goldsztajn (talk) 06:54, 27 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep Amarinder Singh is the former chief minister of punjab, a way more notable person than Chirag Paswan but still his new party's page (Lok Janshakti Party (Ram Vilas)) is not even considered to be deleted, and this man who was the chief minister of a state untill just a few days ago, his new party's page is being questioned, i dont think this is WP:NPOV also according to media sources, this party is at the final state of talks with Bharatiya Janata Party (national party) for coalition, if these talks get succeeded then this party's page will no longer have notability issue, and just FYI this party's name has more than 50,900 google search results compared to much lower 7,680 results of Lok Janshakti Party (Ram Vilas) party's name. Ishqho (talk) 17:53, 3 December 2021 (UTC)


 * keep I don't think this party article should be deleted because Party founder is the former chief minister Amarinder Singh of Punjab. Bihariboy Rahul (talk) 09:21, 4 December 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep per Goldsztajn passes WP:GNG and WP:EVENT  has Substantial, independent reliable source coverage.Pharaoh of the Wizards (talk) 10:09, 6 December 2021 (UTC)


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