Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Purappadu (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. Note: Nice work on article improvement, folks, thanks. --j⚛e deckertalk 14:44, 28 July 2014 (UTC)

Purappadu
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Recreation of an article deleted at AfD last year. Still doesn't seem to clearly meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG. Boleyn (talk) 19:08, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * - I'm not an editor of the article and is unrelated to the article but if you look at the contributions of the articles creator you will understand that he has made a lot of similar articles which has not been (not yet) marked for deletion, doesn't his suggest something? If you don't see thing the same way I do, feel free to state your counter argument but i strongly disagree for the deletion of this article (and the other similar articles too, if proposed for deletion). This article is widening WikiProject_India and more over WikiProject Kerala. ( Rovine  message  ) 20:00, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Take a look at the previous nomination for deletion of this article too. ( Rovine  message  ) 20:02, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment User:Rovine, the last AfD for this ended in 'delete'. It's irrelevant whether WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, how does it meet WP:NFILM or WP:GNG? Boleyn (talk) 20:20, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * delete. Can find evidence of its existence but not enough for notability.-- JohnBlackburne wordsdeeds 20:17, 20 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment part of the problem may be the title given by the creator of the article. While usually listed as Purappadu in India, it is . The other problem is that Indian newspapers which would have covered it are not online for 1990. The consensus in India seems to be that despite having a lot of star quality actors in it and getting a big send up (large advertising budget) that it was a flop at the box office. Nonetheless, it is treasured for some of its songs (like Doore Doore) and as part of the creative work of Mammootty and Sithara. It is one of the thirteen Malayalam films listed by David Courtney at "Indian Film Events and the Year 1990". "Purappadu" refers to "a character's entrance" in a play or during a religious ceremony, and has a particular meaning in classical Indian dance.  --Bejnar (talk) 20:33, 20 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Film-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 00:00, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete per WP:G4 LADY LOTUS • TALK 00:08, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * It is the exact same article? If not, then G4 is inapplicable. However, I have an opinion below that serves our readers. :)    Schmidt,  Michael Q. 03:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Always tough finding sources for 1990 India films, Malayalam language of that era even tougher. As we can at least verify title and director, let's redirect this title to notable director Jeassy.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 03:34, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Comment I agree the sourcing is poor, but that's the case for a lot of Indian films from that period, even Bollywood. Generally with a notable cast of actors and director this should be acceptable on here, but we also need to demonstrate some sort of coverage. It would be good if a Malayalam speaker could find the native title and some sources in Malayalam as I'm pretty sure it would have sources for it in Malayalam newspapers etc.♦ Dr. Blofeld  07:01, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep I'm satisfied that an entry in the Malayalam Film Encyclopedia and the fact that it has a notable cast a crew (particular the cinematographer and the lyricist O. N. V. Kurup who are eminent personalities in the industry) that this meets guidelines for films on here. 90% of Indian films have poor sourcing in English online. Are we to delete them all or try to nurture them into better articles and try to encourage Indian editors to visit libraries and research in newspapers? I'm sure given time such films will have coverage in English books. I know a lot of the old Hindi ones gradually are.♦ Dr. Blofeld  08:59, 21 July 2014 (UTC)


 * Keep. A search for പുറപ്പാട് throws up many results. A lot are for other meanings of Exodus, but a lot are clearly for this film. It is by a major director and has a star-studded cast. On that basis, it is reasonable to assume notability. Aymatth2 (talk) 12:43, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep I agree it is difficult to find many high-quality sources from national newspapers for Malayalam films of that period. But the film appears to be a popular one from that industry, so I am sure that a Malayali speaking editor may help us find some local sources in the language.-- KRIMUK  90  ✉  14:23, 21 July 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep. You needed a Malayali's opinion, you got one :> You wouldn't find, unfortunately, malayalam language publishings in the 90's internet as it a language spoken only in South India (though by around 35 million+) and not a general medium of communication like English or Chinese for someone to sit down a create their ASCII values. It was only in the early 2000s that soft scripts of malayalam became easily available for typing and publishing on the internet and even more time for malayalam newspapers to publish soft daily copies. But, regarding the film , it should be noted that the film has won state awards and is mentioned in the Government's PRD website. Also apart from all lead actors, directors , singers being higly appreciated for their contribution towards malayam cinema , it is also one of the early noted films of the lead actor Mammootty , who went on to receive one of the highest civilian awards by the Indian Government ,the Padma Shri .So, too many notable people involved in the film to be consider for deletion. Thank you -- Sahil 07:29, 25 July 2014 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by SahilSahadevan (talk • contribs)
 * Keep as per WP:HEY. C ute st Penguin '''  {talk • contribs} 15:57, 25 July 2014 (UTC)


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 * Keep per the well-reasoned comments below mine. My thoughts above about a redirect are now my second choice. The stub which was first nominated has received major attention, improving it to show the to show this non-English topic as making it into the permanent records for its time and place. Kudos to . Well done.  Schmidt,  Michael Q. 01:27, 27 July 2014 (UTC)
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