Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Pussycat Dolls' second studio album


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The result was Delete, since the lack of reliable sources has not been addressed. Tikiwont (talk) 10:04, 5 March 2008 (UTC)

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Entirely unverified speculation about a forthcoming album. There is no actual content here - not even an album title to give the article its proper name. The supposed confirmation that the album will even exist is a blog entry "p.s. I asked Santa for another PCD album and I think he's gonna make it happen in 08!! ;) Lots of love, Ash". Article was PRODded and this was endorsed by another editor but then the tags were removed by another editor citing Ignore All Rules so we have no actual justification for keeping the article; rather than ignore all rules myself and put the PROD tags back I am bringing it here. Ros0709 (talk) 08:18, 29 February 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete, nn album does not even existCholgatalK! 09:24, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete as unsourced and unverifiable at this point in time. Maybe the Pussy Cat Dolls will release a second album (I personally hope not), but once information regarding the album's title, specific release date, AND tracklist/major singles can be confirmed through the use of WP:reliable sources independant of the group, their management, or the record company. -- saberwyn 10:48, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - unsourced. Hopefully there really won't be a second PCD album. - eo (talk) 11:57, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above reasons. ArcAngel (talk) 14:43, 29 February 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete - per above reasons.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 02:23, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Strong Keep A schedule of future events may be appropriate if it can be verified. Well it's been verified by a group member on the OFFICIAL web site. And a few of seem to have a vendetta against the group as a whole (Ericorbit, Wikipedia is not a soapbox), although I admittedly am not the group's greatest fan, I believe in due process--KingMorpheus (talk) 04:52, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Are you referring to the comment quoted in the nomination? If so, "I think [it will] happen" is far from an actual confirmation, and as for the source: blogs are not considered reliable and the band's own website is not a third party. Ros0709 (talk) 07:35, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * A member of the group said that there might be an album in 2008 in her personal blog on the website. Googling ["second album"] and limiting results to the pcdmusic.com website produces 250 results. I will admit I only looked at the first 20, but all of these results either have the phrase "second album" in a non PCD context, (such as lead singer Nicole's participation in recording the second album for Days Of The New in her pre-PCD days ) or fans asking each other on blogs/in forum posts if/when there will be one or the possible contents of it. Searching ["new album"] specific to the site provides 1,830 results but more of the same as the first. Other variations of the search phrase ("second PCD album", "second cd" etc] have less than ten results of the same. So, we have a single 'maybe' and a whole lot of irrelevant information and fanspec from the official website (i.e. a non-independant source.
 * If and when more, confimred, and concrete information is released (such as the title, release date, and tracklist I stated above) and can be referenced, I would have no problems about the re-creation of the article at its proper title, despite my personal dislike of the group. But at the moment, it is just a magnet for speculation, guesswork, and false predictions. To not be deleted, the concrete infomration from reliable independant sources needs to appear. I'm not sure it even exists yet. -- saberwyn 07:41, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Also, please Comment on content, not on the contributor. In any case, I would expect that someone who is not a fan of the act would have less difficulty following policy objectively than someone who was. Wikipedia is an encyclopedia, not a fansite. Ros0709 (talk) 08:30, 1 March 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete. i am the original endorser and repeat my position per the original nomination (handily repeated here). In the interests of full disclosure, i have heard one PCD song in my lifetime and found it a whelming experience.  tomasz.  19:37, 1 March 2008 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.   — &mdash;Torc.  ( Talk.  ) 06:44, 4 March 2008 (UTC)


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