Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qi Dao


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Wizardman 16:13, 6 May 2009 (UTC)

Qi Dao

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Notability issues, all material relating to this style seems to be by a single author and no third party sources seem to exist. Salix (talk): 06:54, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  —Salix (talk): 07:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Martial arts-related deletion discussions.  —Salix (talk): 07:16, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete. I asked around about this and other listed "Tibetan martial arts" on the Wikiproject Tibet and Wikiproject Martial Arts discussion pages- no one there had ever heard of them, or seen them listed in any reputable source.  I've not found anything online or in books about Tibetan topics that would verify this allegedly Tibetan martial art, or validate its notability.  Tibet tends to be a magnet for drawing tenuous claims of exotic origin. --Clay Collier (talk) 07:30, 19 April 2009 (UTC)


 * If other martial artists are not aware of any particular style, it doe not mean that the information about that style should not be in Wikipedia. On the contrary, this would allow those and other martial artists to find out about that style. In particular, Qi Dao may be of Tibetan origin but was mostly practiced in Russia. If it came to the West now, it should be given an opportunity to have its page in Wikipedia no less than Boabom or Kum Nye. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Tantrapa (talk • contribs) 19:30, 21 April 2009 (UTC)
 * The problem seems to be one of sources. All the material found seems to be by Lama Tantrapa with no third party sources to verify his claims. The article would stand a much better chance if such sources could be found. There is a specific guideline for martial arts articles: WikiProject Martial arts/Notability which give indication of what is required. --Salix (talk): 20:07, 21 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:12, 26 April 2009 (UTC)


 * Tentative Delete. Tantrapa, are there any sources for any of this other than yours truly? Bossk-Office (talk) 02:18, 26 April 2009 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, – Juliancolton  &#124; Talk 00:01, 3 May 2009 (UTC)


 * Comment There seem to be a great many reliable resources and thousands of other mentions on the internet. Are these references to "Qi Dao" referring to something else?  I'm confused. Drawn Some (talk) 21:02, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Yes there are many things which have Qi and Dao in the name, including a magazine, a movie, a mediation practice. There are also quite a number of sites with material on this particular practice, however all the ones I can find are written by the same person. If you could find a source not written by Tantrapa that would great.--Salix (talk): 21:34, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Absence of reliable third party sources Rirunmot (talk) 21:23, 3 May 2009 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.