Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qilué Veladorn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.  

The result was Merge and redirect to Seven Sisters (Forgotten Realms). Fang Aili talk 18:28, 5 November 2007 (UTC)

Qilué Veladorn

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Non-notable fictional character. Prod was deleted by 204.208.179.5 without comment (along with the unreferenced tag), so listing for AfD. Mikeblas 23:23, 28 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Fictional characters-related deletions.   —Quasirandom 23:47, 28 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete, appears to be non-notable, fails WP:FICT. Google search returns about 1500 hits, but I didn't find any decent secondary sources indicating notability. Doctorfluffy 06:50, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * This AfD nomination was incomplete. It is listed now. DumbBOT 10:38, 30 October 2007 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Game-related deletions.   --Gavin Collins 11:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Delete for lack of reliable secondary sources as evidence of notability outside of the game settings. There are no primary sources given either, nor any real world perspective.--Gavin Collins 11:29, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge to Seven Sisters (Forgotten Realms), ideally along with the other six (except maybe Alustriel). Powers T 12:32, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per Powers. For what it's worth, the claim that "reliable secondary sources" are absent for an article of this nature is a bit wide of the mark: in fact, the description of these characters, in semi-encyclopedic styles, in game manuals whose authority is definitive precedes their use in narrative fiction. - Smerdis of Tlön 13:52, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Comment. The game manuals are primary sources. -- Mikeblas 14:06, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge and redirect to Seven Sisters (Forgotten Realms). Pinball22 15:18, 30 October 2007 (UTC)
 * Merge per above. --Polaron | Talk 16:20, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * delete - cruft, no real world perspective, no secondary sources. Too bad there's not a D&D Wikipedia to transwiki these things into... I don't know how WOTC would feel about it, though, as these are copyrighted characters. AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 22:45, 1 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Lots of wikis deal with copyrighted characters, including Muppet Wiki, Wookieepedia, and Memory Alpha. Granted, Wizards is not Disney/Henson, Lucasfilm, or CBS, but all three of them have been known to put up just as much of a fuss as Wizards has in the past.  Powers T 15:25, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Also, there is a D&D wiki, but it seems to cover just Open Gaming License content, including homebrew stuff. I also found a Forgotten Realms wiki.  Powers T 15:28, 3 November 2007 (UTC)
 * Those are fan wikis, while this is an encyclopedia wiki. Perhaps a D&D fan wiki can't hold any copyrighted content from the sourcebooks because that would discourage people from buying the manuals, I dunno. But in that case, maybe Wikipedia shouldn't have an article on a topic if its content only comes from the D&D manuals and source books (either directly or through synthesis). AllGloryToTheHypnotoad 16:19, 5 November 2007 (UTC)


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