Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Qiulin Zhang


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. joe deckertalk to me 05:36, 23 September 2011 (UTC)

Qiulin Zhang

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The article claims an impressive resume, but a Google search doesn't suggest the same kind of notability as the article claims, and in fact, I think, shows insufficient notability. The puffery suggests self-advertisement. Delete. --Nlu (talk) 15:33, 9 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.  —Tom Morris (talk) 18:13, 9 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Comment. It appears that the subject's name is usually Romanised as . Phil Bridger (talk) 10:19, 11 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Using Phil Bridger's alternative rapidly produces mentions in passing, from reliable news sources, of enough of her resume for me to believe the rest of it - and, just given the ones I've seen, to pass ENT#1. The parts mentioned are mostly secondary ones - but they are still significant within the works concerned and she has been performing at least some of them (for instance, Erda in Der Ring des Nibelungen) at some of the world's leading opera houses (the Royal Opera, London and the Paris Opera). PWilkinson (talk) 00:12, 12 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of China-related deletion discussions.  —Michaela den (talk) 11:42, 13 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:01, 16 September 2011 (UTC)


 * Weak keep - Opera is a very heavily documented art form. She started singing professionally over 20 years ago, yet in all that time, she has no mention at all in any books except a few trivial mentions in a few books e.g. .   That tells me she is a very, very minor singer.   Web soruces are a bit more significant, and seem to show that she meets WP:ENTERTAINER requirements, so I'll go with a weak keep.  --Noleander (talk) 01:56, 16 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep per PWilkinson – appeared on significant Wagner recordings and in significant opera houses. -- Michael Bednarek (talk) 12:52, 18 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep Leading roles in major opera houses, widely reviewed. I've added some sample references to the article, but virtually every performance listed can be verified in reliable sources. In 2010, she sang Erda (one of her signature roles) in the Paris Opera's first performance of the complete Ring Cycle in 53 years — also broadcast in France and on the BBC. Voceditenore (talk) 06:49, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been notified to WikiProject Opera - Voceditenore (talk) 09:16, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
 * Keep. There are now sufficient sources in the article to satisify wikipedia's notability requirements.4meter4 (talk) 23:15, 21 September 2011 (UTC)
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