Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quaestiones Disputatae de Veritate (Thomas Aquinas)


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The result was keep‎__EXPECTED_UNCONNECTED_PAGE__. Nomination correctly withdrawn. Drmies (talk) 22:01, 3 November 2023 (UTC)

Quaestiones Disputatae de Veritate (Thomas Aquinas)

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Works by Aquinas are likely notable, but this article does not establish this. It provides a one-sentence summary and a table of contents. If notability cannot be documented in the article in the course of this AfD, the redirect to List of works by Thomas Aquinas should be restored. If kept, the page should be moved to Quaestiones disputatae de Veritate (no disambiguation is needed).  Sandstein  16:44, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Withdrawn: notability has now been established in the article. Thanks, all!  Sandstein   10:41, 2 November 2023 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philosophy-related deletion discussions.   Sandstein   16:44, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * "Likely" is almost certainly an understatement. But yes, you are correct to not just assume blanket notability. That said: Would you like sources in Italian? &#9786; (Rivista di Filosofia Neo-Scolastica is peer-reviewed.) (I should add, by the way, that the cool kids call it the QD de Ver. &#9786;) Uncle G (talk) 18:01, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * &mdash; this is a Quaestio-by-Quaestio analysis of how Aquinas quotes Pope Gregory I by a post-graduate in Mediaeval studies
 * &mdash; Even if you don't read the other 13 pages of this review (by a professor of the history of philosophy at Libera Università Maria SS. Assunta) of a translation into Italian by Fernando Fiorentino (former professor of theoretical philosophy at the University of Salento) with commentary, and thus itself being also a potential source, the first page alone tells you all about how De Veritate has been translated into Italian, and into German by Edith Stein.
 * Keep I've stubified the article and added a couple more references in English (though one just establishes dates). The topic is certainly notable. Agree with the proposed move.--Jahaza (talk) 18:17, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * @Jahaza, do you mind terribly if I undo the stubbification? I think the list of chapters is actually pretty useful, in lieu of a more thorough prose description. Additionally, since many works are about individual questions, that makes it easier to arrange sources for the possible expansion of this article. -- asilvering (talk) 18:53, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * I don't think the list of chapters is necessary, but wouldn't object to its restoration. Please just restore that content though, don't remove the prose I added. Jahaza (talk) 18:58, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. Any surviving work of Aquinas is going to pass WP:NBOOK#5, which occurs when The book's author is so historically significant that any of the author's written works may be considered notable, meaning that the book's author is of exceptional significance and the author's life and body of written work would be a common subject of academic study. Simply put, Aquinas is so historically significant that his life and body of written work are a common subject of academic study (and have been for hundreds of years). I would also be shocked if WP:NBOOK#4 (The book is, or has been, the subject of instruction at two or more schools, colleges, universities or post-graduate programs in any particular country) were not met at any point between the 1200s and the present. Separately, for the positivists among us, some of the work's arguments are described in Animal Rationality: Later Medieval Theories. Combined with the sources provided by above, show at minimum a passing of WP:NBOOK#1 in addition to the other two subject-specific notability criteria. —  Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 18:26, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Literature and Christianity. —  Red-tailed hawk  (nest) 18:28, 1 November 2023 (UTC)
 * Keep. I don't care for the WP:NBOOK#5 argument (surely Aquinas has some works we've just listed somewhere as "Aquinas is supposed to have written this" and not much else), but my library search has turned up whole books on single questions from this work, and whole articles on single subsections of individual questions. I don't want to add the books as further reading to the article since none are so easily available that this seems useful. I will add an article I just turned up on Q24,A2 though. -- asilvering (talk) 18:50, 1 November 2023 (UTC)


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