Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Queens Drive


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. and rename to A5058 road Black Kite 08:51, 23 February 2009 (UTC)

Queens Drive

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Delete this article, at least, claims the road is "major", but is bereft of sources and "major" is in the eye of the beholder. Anyway, it doesn't appear to be notable. Carlossuarez46 (talk) 18:17, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep it is one of the major roads in the city, and also a primary route. Some sources that can be used: . — Snigbrook  19:27, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of England-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Transportation-related deletion discussions.   -- • Gene93k (talk) 20:34, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Abstain Koptor (talk) 22:29, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * REname to A5058 Road, which is at present a redlink, assuming that we can trust Snigbrook as to its importance. A-Roads with 4-digit numbers are usually short or unimportant or both.  There are a lot of articles in the suggested format, dealing with the whole length of a road, which may well go by differnet names in different areas.  Peterkingiron (talk) 23:36, 18 February 2009 (UTC)
 * If it was renamed, it would probably be A5058 road. — Snigbrook 00:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep - In addition to the sources found by Snigbrook (more direct link to the book ref here), it appears one of the primary roads of Liverpool  Nominating a non-hoax article that asserts its notability for AfD on it's second edit and withing four hours of its creation  is not helpful to this project. --Oakshade (talk) 00:07, 19 February 2009 (UTC) (Additional comment) For the record, I'm neutral on the rename proposal. --Oakshade (talk) 19:10, 20 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Comment: If kept it certainly needs some form of renaming. I don't know how many "Queens Drives there are worldwide, but I can think of three fairly locally off the top of my head. There must be a considerable number, even just going by the number of different Queens Drives mentioned in Wikipedia articles. Grutness...wha?  00:16, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I think it's usually known as Queens Drive, at least that appears to be its name for its entire length and most sources prefer to name to the number (similar to roads in London, where the number is only a redirect). None of the other roads with the same name appear to be notable enough for articles, and although the road in Kilmarnock is part of an A-road but that doesn't necessarily mean it would be a useful redirect or search term for it (just imagine what the High Street (disambiguation) page would look like).  However, if there is another Queens Drive that is notable, disambiguation would be needed. — Snigbrook  00:46, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * It is known as Queens Road for most of its Liverpool stretch but not for the Bootle segment nor for the Allerton end. For that reason, I think that redirecting A5058 road was premature. The way forward is a rename, IMHO. Smile a While (talk) 01:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Keep and rename A5058 road - since most (but not all) of the A5058 is known as Queens Drive this seems logical and enables this major road to be covered in one place. Smile a While (talk) 01:15, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * I agree, it should be moved to A5058 road – I hadn't noticed the continuation with the same number but a different name at the Bootle end, or the change of name at a minor junction at the other end where the A5058 turns off Queens Drive. — Snigbrook 01:44, 19 February 2009 (UTC)
 * Rename A5058 road in line with other roads articles, it can be expanded from there. Jenuk1985  |  Talk  07:52, 19 February 2009 (UTC)


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