Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Queer Dale


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Shereth 17:48, 18 August 2008 (UTC)

Queer Dale

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Fails WP:MUSIC. I can't find anything on this on Billboard, Polyhex, AMG, Google ... . - CobaltBlueTony™ talk 18:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Why are you deleting this? I spent so much time on research and making and you go and delet it? —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 19:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)

Ok, but please dont delete this, if you are suggesting they didnt exist then you are very wrong. I admit i was there biggest fan for ovious reasons as you can probably guess, but they even appeared on TOTP and buzzcocks and i even found a video on youtube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 19:07, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - I don't think the band existing is in question, but rather are they notible. You may have done a lot of research, but have zero references in the article. As it stands, it appears to be original research (aka by you), and what you need is reliable 3rd party sources. There is an assertion of notability in the article, so I will hold off deciding on a delete or keep to give you some time to get your references added. Turlo Lomon (talk) 20:01, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Sorry, but the band existing is in question, at least in my book. The article claims the band placed five hits on the UK Top 40, this is completely untrue, as a quick search at everyhit.com will confirm.  Given that the article contains one obvious untruth, added to the total lack of Ghits for a band who were supposedly popular in multiple countries, I'm going to tag this as a hoax and !vote delete -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 07:00, 14 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete Can't find anything on the web. A band with even minor reception in the gay community should bring up some ghits at least. As the article is, it lacks either WP:V or WP:N. Gunnar Hendrich (talk) 19:10, 13 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions.   — Paul Erik  (talk) (contribs) 22:06, 13 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, article fails to establish notability as per WP:MUSIC. Lacks verifiability & reliable, third-party, sources.   Esradekan Gibb    "Talk" 02:54, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

The funny thing is, I have a old TOTP magazine which features an interview with them, so they obviously DO exist if there in a genuine TOTP magazine. And why would I make this up anyway, that would just be absolutley pointless after all the research and time i spent on making this article based on a REAL band. And i did find a youtube video of them performing at a gig in Bristol, but i remember i once posted a youtube URL link another page and Wikipedia told me I couldnt do it and deleted my link.

And your obviously not looking hard enough on google, because I managed to find a lot of information on them on google after a while of searching, which helped me to write the article. Some of it might not be true but its only what i read on the internet and from what i know being a fan. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 14:46, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Here is a complete list of every non-Wikipedia Google hit generated by the words "Queer Dale" - perhaps you could point out to us which of these webpages provides any information whatsoever about this alleged band.......? -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 08:46, 15 August 2008 (UTC)


 * DeleteRather than having had 'five top 40 UK hits',they have in fact not even managed to make the UK Top 100.Their 'huge hit that was a No.2 in the Spanish charts' appears nowhere on Google. I'm also curious as to how the group goes from being a '90s group' in the first paragraph to a '80s sensation' in the last one...Nothing on Youtube either Lemon martini (talk) 16:05, 14 August 2008 (UTC)

Alright sorry for making a couple of mistakes, ill change it back to 90s, bu how come i can find info on them AND on youtube. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 16:50, 14 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Delete, apparent hoax. Claims within the article are trivial to prove false, no Google hits and no YouTube hits despite claims made here. --Stormie (talk) 01:00, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

This is not a hoax! Why would i spend so much time writing up an aticle on a 'fake' band?! Seriously that would just be pointless. You people are not looking hard enough, If you do you WILL find pages on them on google, because I did, and you WILL find youtube videos of them because I did also. I WOULD post a youtube link, BUT i did that one and wikipedia deleted the link and told me I couldnt, so I wont attempt it again. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 13:12, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

And it DEFINETLY IS on google, after a few different searches inluding the words Queer Dale and a long time looking through pages I found information. Your all to quick to judge and dont respects the amount of research and time done on this. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 13:16, 15 August 2008 (UTC) If you look at my history, I have only made appropriate edits and creations to wikipedia pages, so why would I creat a hoax article is beyond me. —Preceding unsigned comment added by Hamandcheesemachine (talk • contribs) 13:18, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

Viola! I found a picture of them, I dont know if anyone here is from Bristol, where Queer Dale originated. Now in Bristol, they have the Annual Harbour Festival, i found on a cached page (been updated because it was from 2007) after a lot of searching. I did not include this in the article because it was a one off event for the band, but they played in a pub nearby Bristol harbour for the event in 2007. In the picture its Brian Wilson on the left(hasnt changed much, has the same hair basically), then its Shane,Danny,and Dale on the right, a bit older fatter and uglier but....if you want to see the picture I am happy to show you, i am not sure about all the copyright and stuff so I wont uplaod it to the article without you wanting to see it first. And If you dont beleive me about the Bristol Harbour Festival, google that. --Hamandcheesemachine (talk) 14:47, 15 August 2008 (UTC)

There is still no assertion of notability.Playing the Bristol Harbour Festival for what you describe as 'a one off event' is not notable(they didn't even headline the event).There have been no charting albums or singles,no tours or collaborations with major artists,no major awards.Lemon martini (talk) 12:44, 16 August 2008 (UTC)

Actally they were famous in the 90s, thats why they featured in the Harbour Festival as a combeck. I will provide a link to Photobucket which features a picture of them. Queer Dale 07. Like I said, they a it older obviously. This picture was not actually taken by me, It was on a cached page from Bristol.gov.uk Events (was a cached page so has been updated) but I was at that performance.--Hamandcheesemachine (talk) 13:43, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Right, so you've proved (maybe) that the band played a pub gig in 2007. That's hardly the same thing as being internationally famous and having five top 40 hits, which for the record is blatantly untrue.  If the only thing that can be conclusively proved is that they played one pub gig last year then I'm sorry but they're a million miles away from being notable enough to be on Wikipedia.... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:27, 17 August 2008 (UTC)
 * Oh, and for the record that banner behind the band in your photo looks quite a lot like it's been Photoshopped on to me....... -- ChrisTheDude (talk) 20:30, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


 * Delete almost certain hoax (the top 40 claims are false and the two pictures don't even look to me like the same set of guys) but in any case absolutely not notable - see Google. JohnCD (talk) 21:47, 17 August 2008 (UTC)


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