Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Queer parenting in Canada


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The result was   no consensus.  Sandstein  21:41, 21 January 2015 (UTC)

Queer parenting in Canada

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As written, this isn't really an encyclopedia article — rather, it's planted somewhere along the road between an essay and a how-to guide to locating government services and support resources. (One of the things I've already stripped from the article was a directory of offsite links to "resource" organizations.) I hasten to point out that this isn't a homophobia thing — I'm rather well known around here as an openly gay man, and I actually maintain an internal project for improvement of Canadian LGBT coverage. But we already have a general article about LGBT parenting, and the "how-to" stuff (which is, per longstanding policy, not what Wikipedia is for) is the only thing that's really distinguishing this Canadian version from the main one. Delete. Bearcat (talk) 22:00, 4 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nom, I don't quite understand why this article pertains only to Canada. Is Canada special when it comes to LGBT people?  Jay  Jay What did I do? 23:45, 4 January 2015 (UTC)
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 * Keep. I think that this is a notable topic. In response to the question, "Is Canada special when it comes to LGBT people?" I would say yes, each country has its own laws and cultural norms that affect LGBT parents differently. It would be impossible to discuss country-specifics within LGBT parenting so it makes sense to spin it off into other articles. There are problems with the tone and content of the article but this should be improved per WP:Deletion is not cleanup. T.C.Haliburtontalk nerdy to me 02:04, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Rename LGBT parenting in Canada Merge, maybe - the standard convention is for a Homosexuality in Canada article which doesn't exist yet. Bizarrely, we have the split, LGBT history in Canada but not the "parent" article (no pun intended). These sorts of issues are usually dealt with there. The lack of an article at that title probably encouraged the creation of this one. That said, it may well be that this content there would create a WP:WEIGHT issue anyway. There's a notable topic in there somewhere but I don't think this is the right title (basically).  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 02:16, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Rename LGBT parenting in Canada and keep. We have Same-sex marriage in Canada and dozens of similar articles.  while adoption/parenting laws are as much of a hot button topic, there is certainly enough public debate\policies\laws\organization\etc. on the issue in many countries to warrant country specific articles.  That appears to be the case in Canada. The title should conform to the standard established by the main article (LGBT parenting). The tone issues (it does read like an essay) and such can be fixed through normal editing. --ThaddeusB (talk) 03:55, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Sounds like a good solution.  St ★ lwart 1 1 1 05:11, 5 January 2015 (UTC)
 * I agree with renaming it. I've gone ahead and renamed it LGBT parenting in Canada per WP:BOLD. The content still needs plenty of work. T.C.Haliburtontalk nerdy to me 23:41, 5 January 2015 (UTC)


 * It's possible that the topic is notable, but the article is basically a how-to (you can tell because of the detailed information it provides on things that would be relevant to LGBT couples seeking to have children in the real world, but that aren't part of the topic of LGBT parenting, like how in-vitro works). Salvage links/sources for the laws specifically related to LGBT parenting to LGBT in Canada and nuke the rest - delete. –Roscelese (talk &sdot; contribs) 06:44, 7 January 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep at the newer title above and cleanup per the rename arguments above. I don't agree that all the content is entirely HOWTO, and there appear to be sources which would evidence notability of the topic. --j⚛e deckertalk 06:43, 12 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep and move per ThaddeusB. Bearian (talk) 22:22, 12 January 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * Delete - Wikipedia is not a place for personal essays/how-to guides such as this one. Hirolovesswords (talk) 06:28, 13 January 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   12:07, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep, most educational and encyclopedic, good amount of secondary source coverage over time. &mdash; Cirt (talk) 23:18, 13 January 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete essentially nothing in the article is about Canada, except the cost of assisted reproduction in Candian dollars; everything else is well covered elsewhere.  DGG ( talk ) 04:01, 17 January 2015 (UTC)
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