Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quek See Ling


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. Numerous sources have been offered, but there's been very little actual discussion.  Sandstein  06:24, 6 May 2018 (UTC)

Quek See Ling

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While she is a published author, I can find nothing to support a claim that she passes either WP:GNG or WP:NAUTHOR. If someone with skill in Chinese can validate sources, be happy to withdraw the nomination.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:55, 11 April 2018 (UTC)
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 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 03:23, 19 April 2018 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  MBisanz  talk 04:34, 27 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions. North America1000 09:49, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
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 * Keep per analysis

Do let me say this is not China related discussion but Singapore. I am a Native Chinese Speaker with Both English and Chinese as my first language. I will try to analyse this article


 * Poetry Collections
 * Gaining While Losing (《得不到你时得到你》) (Written and Illustrated by Quek See Ling) (Singapore: Self-Publishing, 2017) ISBN 978-981-11-2387-0
 * (Search per NLB - National Library Board catalogue - available in all public, regional, reference libraries under NLB, one on loan currently)
 * When Your Muse Is Stuck in Traffic (《当你灵感塞车》) (Singapore: Self-Publishing, 2016) ISBN 978-981-09-8872-2
 * (Same)
 * Bulletproof, Yet How Could We Embrace (《穿着防弹衣的我们怎么拥抱》) (Singapore: Self-Publishing, 2015) ISBN 978-981-09-4045-4
 * (Same, note it is even in https://www.nlb.gov.sg/Research/PublicationSG.aspx - PublicationSG is the National Library's collection of our nation's published heritage. There are more than one million items collected. Topics span the diverse fields of literary and visual arts, business, social sciences and humanities. - intro by NLB, statutory board under Singapore Ministry of Culture, Communication and Youth)
 * Walking Me on Me (《我走在我之上》) (Singapore: Self-Publishing，2014) ISBN 978-981-09-1287-1
 * (Same note also on publicationSG)


 * Historical Books
 * 《致读者：新加坡书店故事1881-2016》 (One of the five contributors and editors) (Singapore: Chou Sing Chu Foundation, 2016) ISBN 978-981-09-8944-6
 * (Same note also on publicationSG)
 * Passage of Time: Singapore Bookstore Stories 1881-2016 (One of the Five Contributors and Editors) (Singapore: Chou Sing Chu Foundation, 2016) ISBN 978-981-09-8945-3
 * (Same note also on publicationSG)

〈2016年《联合早报》书选〉，《联合早报》，副刊第8版（新加坡，2017年1月8日）
 * Sources
 * 郭诗玲〈诗人简介〉，郭诗玲《我走在我之上》（新加坡：自行出版，2014）
 * Translated - autobio - not reliable
 * 〈郭诗玲〉，王润华等编《新加坡华文文学五十年》（新加坡：八方文化创作室，2015）
 * Translated - autobio - not reliable
 * 〈新诗19首简介〉，鸿鸿主编《卫生纸+》（第31期）（台北：黑眼睛文化事业有限公司，2016年4月），页6
 * Translated - 2nd party coverage - not really reliable IMO
 * 鸿鸿〈你真的算过鸡兔同笼的脚吗？——诗集《得不到你时得到你》与郭诗玲现象〉，封德屏总编辑《文讯》（第381期）（台北：文讯杂志社，2017年7月），页128-129
 * Translated - 2nd party coverage - not really reliable IMO
 * 〈青年诗人郭诗玲新书分享会〉，《联合早报》，副刊第5版（新加坡，2017年6月30日）
 * Translated - 2nd party coverage - reliable due to this being the mainstream media newspaper
 * 陈宇昕报道〈后真相时代：诗歌能起怎样的作用？——访台湾诗人鸿鸿与许悔之〉，《联合早报》，副刊头版（新加坡，2017年4月3日）
 * Translated - 2nd party coverage - reliable due to this being the mainstream media newspaper
 * 赵琬仪报道〈“早报书选2016”最后一场座谈会：希望书店与读者继续相恋〉，《联合早报》，副刊第5版（新加坡，2017年5月16日）
 * Translated - 2nd party coverage - reliable due to this being the mainstream media newspaper


 * Awards
 * 2017：Booklist of Lianhe Zaobao 2016 (《致读者：新加坡书店故事1881-2016》[Passage of Time: Singapore Bookstore Stories 1881-2016], one of the five contributors and editors) [7][8]
 * personal opinion - this awards can be given to any singapore author whose books are in bookstore

As per WP:AUTHOR


 * The person is regarded as an important figure or is widely cited by peers or successors.
 * No
 * The person is known for originating a significant new concept, theory, or technique.
 * No
 * The person has created or played a major role in co-creating a significant or well-known work or collective body of work. In addition, such work must have been the primary subject of an independent and notable work (for example, a book, film, or television series, but usually not a single episode of a television series) or of multiple independent periodical articles or reviews.
 * No, the award is insignificant
 * The person's work (or works) either (a) has become a significant monument, (b) has been a substantial part of a significant exhibition, (c) has won significant critical attention, or (d) is represented within the permanent collections of several notable galleries or museums.
 * Yes, for the publicationSG + all the works are in the Lee Kong Chian Reference Library - https://www.nlb.gov.sg/About/LeeKongChianReferenceLibrary.aspx, I will say it meet 

Since WP:AUTHOR met, i don't have to go into WP:GNG where it will meet as reliable secondary sources cited it which make it notable. (I use WP:RS as a guide but focuses on Singapore consensus created list of reliable source (, which the few sources is clearly reliable)

Therefore, Keep --Quek157 (talk) 20:22, 28 April 2018 (UTC)
 * Further recommendations - label as stub class and then some non related author can take it further. I will support a keep is based on the fact IMO meet both author / gng. but should the COI involved editor make it more advert like, we may need to block the user (no COI declaration) or rather just delete based on advert (CSD). The article needs major rewrite. And maybe chinese wiki may be more suitable but this is still notable here --Quek157 (talk) 20:34, 28 April 2018 (UTC)


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