Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quidditch Australia


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was Keep but move to Quidditch in Australia and generalize to that topic. BD2412 T 19:34, 1 January 2020 (UTC)

Quidditch Australia

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Notability. All the sources are self published save one, a small item in a local newspaper. I would favour redirecting to International Quidditch Association. TheLongTone (talk) 14:46, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Australia-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Sports-related deletion discussions.  CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 14:54, 15 December 2019 (UTC)
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 * Suggested alternative to deletion - the organisation itself probably does not have enough notability for its own article, but as an alternative to just deleting the article altogether (which contains some useful information about an unusual sport - cf. WP:NOTPAPER) - perhaps we could merge this article with Australian national quidditch team to make a "Quidditch in Australia" page (which could include the national team as well as some information about the local versions of the sport, where some primary sources would be acceptable)? There are quite a few external sources about Quidditch in Australia, including winning the World Cup in 2016 - e.g. here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here, here. Bookscale (talk) 09:37, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * I've started adding sources and will keep working on it. Agreed with Bookscale above, this is just a blanket article about quidditch played in Australia; the Australian Quidditch Championships and the bigger VQA and QNSW state leagues could easily have their own articles which would align better with what's in the quidditch template at the bottom of the page. Azizlight (talk) 20:13, 16 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Keep Move to Quidditch in Australia.  There is quite sufficient WP:NEXIST, including sustained coverage in major mainstream publications, for the subject matter to be notable.  The article does need some work, and this seems to be happening.  Aoziwe (talk) 10:40, 18 December 2019 (UTC)
 * For clarity, the organisation, "Quidditch Australia", does not seem to be particularly notable, but despite the title of the page, the content is really about "Quidditch in Australia". Aoziwe (talk) 10:43, 18 December 2019 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Sufficient RS to prove GNG, for the specific organisation, have not yet been presented at this AfD; however, there seems to be more RS on the sport itself in Australia; some discussion re ATD and/or merging or renaming, however no clear consensus as yet here either; try a re-list

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Britishfinance (talk) 01:06, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Comment to relisting administrator -, in your relisting comments, you noted that no one had presented any reliable sources for the organisation. I'm not sure if you have read my comment that listed a whole heap of articles about the sport in Australia (which is why both I and Aoziwe have suggested the article be renamed), and Azizlight has substantially edited the article to strongly improve it. So I think it's a bit unfair to just say that no one has presented any reliable sources. Bookscale (talk) 04:29, 23 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Hi, I should have clarified myself (which I have done now above); the issue is that the RS around the specific organisation (Quidditch Australia), seems thin, however, the RS for the sport in Australia seems good. There have beem discussions above on how to fix this (eg Quidditch in Australia etc), but I don’t think a consensus has been reached yet? E.g Is it a seperate variation (like Australian Quidditch), or an identical strain to that of other countries (like Quidditch in Australia).  Seems it can be solved, but only by editors who know the topic. All the best, Britishfinance (talk) 10:11, 23 December 2019 (UTC) (PS, I am not an admin).
 * Thanks - appreciate you clarifying, as I can see you are in agreement with the editors who have commented here, including me, thank you. I think the consensus (so far) seems to be that the name of the article should be changed to a Quidditch in Australia article, in which Quidditch Australia can be mentioned. But happy for the article to be relisted to see whether there are other ideas. Bookscale (talk) 03:42, 24 December 2019 (UTC)


 * Keep and Move to Quidditch in Australia. WP:NEXIST. meets our guidelines. Wm335td (talk) 20:50, 31 December 2019 (UTC)
 * Commment. I won't close this given I re-listed it, but per, and above, the consensus (and WP policy) seems good for a Keep and Move to Quidditch in Australia. Britishfinance (talk) 22:07, 31 December 2019 (UTC)


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