Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quintessential Capital Management


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The result was delete. Although sources were found and presented in the debate, the general agreement is they were insufficient to prove notability. Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  15:16, 29 July 2017 (UTC)

Quintessential Capital Management

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Promotional article created by an SPA about a subject that is borderline. They were involved with reporting irregularities at another company that did cause that firm to file for bankruptcy, but most of the coverage that exists about them is one line in larger reports about the other firm being caught. The Independent's coverage is one line and refers to them as "little known", which I think helps shore up the argument that they are not a significant player. WP:CORPDEPTH combined with the promotional factors make this article fail WP:N. TonyBallioni (talk) 14:14, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * I disagree. This fund seems to be very active in exposing corporate frauds. While Globo was certainly the highest profile event, American Addiction Centers was important enough to dedicate a full article to the stock collapse and a full paragraph to Quintessential at the Wall Street Journal (see reference in the article).


 * As far as "little-known" the fund was probably little known prior to the Globo events. After the Globo event, with the fund mentioned in several top newspapers and the portfolio manager invited to speak in several high-profile events, the fund is now quite well known, at least in Italy, in the UK and within the hedge fund community.Yakag (talk) 14:54, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * La Repubblica, Italy's second largest newspaper, has covered Quintessential in a full article which, though in Italian, describes the fund and its activities just as much as the Globo event itself: The 007 Fund and even calls it with the nickname "the 007 fund".


 * Again, in this old WSJ article, Gregory Zuckerman from the WSJ actually seeks out Mr. Grego, as a representative of Quintessential, to ask opinions about market conditions. They would not do that if the fund were not a significant player.


 * https://www.investorvillage.com/smbd.asp?mb=16353&mn=26761&pt=msg&mid=15260267Yakag (talk) 14:54, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete Per nominator, fails WP:CORPDEPTH. Not enough third party sources that are about the subject itself.--SamHolt6 (talk) 14:59, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Companies-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 15:04, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * In my opinion it does not fail WP:CORPDEPTH. Although depth of coverage is not substantial, multiple independent sources have been cited. The company gained notability from those sources. — Preceding unsigned comment added by carlab212 (talk • contribs)


 * FT cites: "For Quintessential Capital Management, the hedge fund behind last week's report, it was a victory. Source:https://www.ft.com/content/f5b57c18-7e37-11e5-a1fe-567b37f80b64


 * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Globo_plc has a link to the page Quintessential Capital Management confirming it is main player in discovering the fraud. talk


 * Delete. The word "quintessential" doesn't appear in any of the non-paywall sources cited for the section on American Addiction Centers. (I could change my mind if they are prominently mentioned in the paywall articles.)
 * In addition, I ran a Google search on the company excluding the word "globo": . Nothing useful for establishing notability was returned, only 21 hits in all. So, at least for purposes of WP:GNG, one could make a case for sufficient coverage in sources dealing with the Globo case—but, then, I believe WP:ONEEVENT applies. Largoplazo (talk) 16:12, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Keep. Significant discussion of the subject in multiple reliable sources independent of the company can easily be found at . Sagecandor (talk) 17:45, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I just clicked all the links you listed and, except for the first one (regular Google search), which I already discussed above, there are zero hits, which doesn't qualify as easily found. Largoplazo (talk) 18:09, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * *Likewise--SamHolt6 (talk) 18:13, 21 July 2017 (UTC)


 * Delete - Just not enough significant secondary coverage to be considered notable. Passing mentions do not contribute very much.TheGracefulSlick (talk) 18:54, 21 July 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep. Articles connecting Quintessential to the American Addiction debacle:
 * WSJ: https://blogs.wsj.com/moneybeat/2015/08/05/blog-post-from-college-student-causes-massive-sell-off-in-aac-holdings/ [second-last paragraph is about Quintessential: "Gabriel Grego, who runs the New York and Tel Aviv-based hedge fund Quintessential Capital Management LLC, said he first took a look at AAC stock after reading Mr. Drose’s March post. He and his team, which hold a short position, have spent the last several months conducting their own research."
 * https://seekingalpha.com/pro/checkout/3342015?notice=pro (paywall but you can see the fund's prominent logo)
 * https://www.bizjournals.com/nashville/blog/health-care/2015/08/as-fallout-from-murder-charge-continues-aac-stock.html?utm_source=feedburner&utm_medium=feed&utm_campaign=Feed%3A+bizj_national+%28Bizjournals+National+Feed%29&utm_content=Google+International (see 7th paragraph).
 * Yakag (talk) 09:47, 28 July 2017 (UTC) connected contributor
 * The last two are the same article. What they have to say about QCM is contained in a single sentence: "Quintessential Capital Management, another firm short on AAC, has written similar reports on the company’s drug testing practices and other issues within the company." This isn't significant coverage. Neither is mentioning that someone being quoted in an article runs a company, as in the WSJ article, significant coverage of the company. Largoplazo (talk) 10:44, 28 July 2017 (UTC)
 * I removed one of the links, it was a re-print. Still, all the material taken together gives a measure of notoriety and of course WSJ is a highly reputable source. Best. Yakag (talk) 13:45, 28 July 2017 (UTC) connected contributor
 * The WSJ's reputation suits it for establishing verifiability but it's immaterial to a notability evaluation of a subject if it does no more than mention the subject's name in passing. But now I'm quibbling over individual sources with you. See what I wrote above about how, overall, one might indeed be able to make a case that there's sufficient coverage of Quintessential—but only in connection with that one case, so I wondered whether WP:ONEEVENT might come into play. No one has responded to that. Largoplazo (talk) 14:16, 28 July 2017 (UTC)


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