Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Quinton Flynn


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. There appears to be an even numerical divide between editors who believe this article should be deleted and those who believe it should be kept, with reasonable arguments from both sides. There is a somewhat weak consensus that a small amount of content is probably worth salvaging, and possibly enough to sustain a short article. This AfD has been relisted twice, but failed to generate any further discussion of substance to determine whether coverage surrounding the subject of the article meets the relevant notability guidelines beyond any reasonable doubt. (non-admin closure) Haleth (talk) 01:41, 22 November 2021 (UTC)

Quinton Flynn

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I've done a WP:BEFORE search, and I am just not finding any significant coverage. The vast majority of the article is cited to "Behind The Voice Actors", a voice acting roles database. The only coverage I can find is surrounding the replacement of his voice acting in World of Warcraft following the "Beware Quinton Flynn" allegations, but these don't seem to have been picked up by reliable sources, and I can only find borderline blogs like Bounding into Comics covering it, and I don't think they should be included for WP:BLP reasons. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Found an article in Gamespot briefly mentioning it, but that's about it as far as RS coverage goes. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:52, 29 October 2021 (UTC)


 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Video games-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions. Hemiauchenia (talk) 17:40, 29 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete- He's not passing the GNG bar. GoodDay (talk) 19:50, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Delete. A lengthy list of credits, to be sure, but nothing meeting WP:SIGCOV. If anything I would take the fact that he has worked so prolifically without attracting any dedicated coverage in secondary sources as proof positive of a lack of notability. ᵹʀᴀᴘᴘʟᴇ ꭗ 20:08, 31 October 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep. I wanted to vote delete.  I looked at the results of  a Google Books search results and they all seem to be mentions-in-passing as they list the cast of various productions.  I then did a Google news search and to my astonishment found lots of non-routine news stories about Quinton Flynn, for example: . If the sources are good enough to be found by a Google News search, I think that suggests they are valid.  I think the coverage is enough to count as significant coverage. There were also lots of mentions-in-passing in articles that mentioned some of the cast of various productions. -- Toddy1 (talk) 17:01, 1 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Most of the sources you mentioned are the "borderline blogs" I was talking about earlier. Niche Gamer is an unreliable source per WP:VG/RS, Bounding into Comics is a pro-Comicsgate (the comics counterpart of Gamergate (harassment campaign) publication that seems to have little reputation, it got a mixed-negative reception at RSN Reliable_sources/Noticeboard/Archive_293. The Eurogamer piece doesn't really talk about Quinn as a voice actor or note his accomplishments, but is simply about that he hasn't got a callback for his recurring role in the Metal Gear series that he later got. Nerd Reactor piece looks good, but it also looks like an obscure publication. I might ask VG/RS about it. Hemiauchenia (talk) 20:20, 1 November 2021 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ritchie333 (talk) (cont)  14:02, 6 November 2021 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Daniel (talk) 22:49, 14 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, as there is enough coverage for notabilityJackattack1597 (talk) 18:52, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Keep, albeit grudgingly. Flynn is a D-tier voice actor who lucked into one notable role (Raiden), and Wikipedia is not IMDb.  That said.  There's a twilight area of actors of borderline notability who have articles, and the more roles, the more there's a presumption that this actor will eventually become notable.  Flynn has been around long enough he probably meets that threshold where having an IMDb-esque article that is essentially a recap of roles he's in is probably worthwhile.  Some of these actors never really will be notable, but enough of them do that Wikipedia has seemingly made a policy decision to keep such articles.  If this sounds like WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS, well, that's because it is.  If Wikipedia wants to start cleaning out minor actors (producers/ composers / etc.) who never really made it big, there are much, much more minor actors out there to start with "first".  By the existing criteria used, Flynn is safely away from that deletable tier, even if his current RS coverage is fairly poor.  SnowFire (talk) 23:27, 5 November 2021 (UTC)
 * *Weak* Delete per Hemiauchenia's analysis of the sources provided by Toddy1. Among the four sources linked, Eurogamer is reliable but doesn't really include much analysis beyond paraphrasing of his interview with The Gaming Liberty (i.e. reliable but not really significant). Nerd Reactor appears reliable as a source per Wikipedia talk:WikiProject Video games/Sources but the non-primary coverage in the article consists of a few sentences in total (hence perhaps not "significant"). So you're looking at two reliable sources that are not really significant plus other sources of questionable reliability. That said, one can build a non-stub article using the Eurogamer and Nerd Reactor sources plus other passing coverage. feminist (+) 02:43, 6 November 2021 (UTC)
 * Comment I agree with SnowFire's comments. Mathieu Vouillamoz (talk) 12:40, 20 November 2021 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.