Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R. M. Engelhardt


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The result was   delete. Happy to supply a copy of the deleted article per Michael Schmidt. \ Backslash Forwardslash / {talk} 12:14, 4 July 2009 (UTC)

R. M. Engelhardt

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Unremarkable local poet from Albany, New York, USA. Published in non-notable zines and electronic journals, one anthology, and two apparently self-published volumes. No significant coverage found in a Google news search. Article created by User:R.M. Engelhardt and contributed to by single purpose accounts User:72.0.130.211 (WHOIS says it is from Albany), User:LilaAuralia, and User:Rainrain87. Previous versions have been speedied three times already (please salt if deleting). Delicious carbuncle (talk) 20:44, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.  -- TexasAndroid (talk) 22:12, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete. Appears to fail WP:CREATIVE, cannot find references to establish notability otherwise. Rnb (talk) 22:47, 27 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Living people-related deletion discussions. --Erwin85Bot (talk) 00:01, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions.  —Thryduulf (talk) 00:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 *  Keep Userfy Encyclopedic article. Sourcing provided in the article "almost" meet concerns toward WP:GNG. Allow back when the WP:GNG can be met.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 01:49, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Out of curiosity, which sources in the article do you think would meet WP:RS for notability? I think the only one that comes close is Metroland Online, as the others don't appear to be independent of the subject, and the Metroland is pretty minor. Rnb (talk) 02:05, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * My first impression was wrong, and I have modified my opinion after a more thorough search. We can certainly verify that he is a published poet (, etc...) and even accept that he started the Albany Poets group (, etc...), but not strongly establish his individual notability per guideline. If there were an article on Albany Poets, which themselves seem to nudge notability, he might expect a paragraph or 2 as the founder.  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 06:19, 28 June 2009 (UTC)


 * Delete again, per nom. Niteshift36 (talk) 08:02, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete Per nom. Harry the Dog WOOF  08:04, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * DeleteNo published works in worldCat. DGG (talk) 08:33, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Question Has any of his work won awards?  Schmidt,  MICHAEL Q. 19:41, 28 June 2009 (UTC)
 * Delete - no coverage in reliable sources. The Metroland article is an event announcement. -- Whpq (talk) 15:48, 29 June 2009 (UTC)
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