Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/R. N. Taber


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   keep. No arguments for deletion aside from the nominator. (and even he's not sure) (non-admin closure) Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:20, 29 June 2010 (UTC)

R. N. Taber

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I believe this BLP fails the notability requirements. I have added a full set of ISBNs after checking the bibliography on Google Books and Worldcat, these appear to be self-published. I find no evidence of independent news items or independent reviews. The single review included (from the LGBT History Month site) has no evidence of who the reviewer is, and that site accepts book reviews from anyone prepared to email one in. The site oneandother is no evidence of notability as the point of the performance art installation was that non-notable members of the public took part. Unless someone can produce at least one independent review demonstrating impact then the article fails WP:GNG.

Unfortunately, I see that the page history shows some possible COI contributions and that contributor has not responded to associated notices on their talk page. Consequently notability here may be over estimated. Fæ (talk) 13:28, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Poetry-related deletion discussions.  -- Fæ (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Authors-related deletion discussions.  -- Fæ (talk) 13:29, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Sexuality and gender-related deletion discussions.  -- Fæ (talk) 13:30, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 *  Weak keep I found a couple of notes under his full name (Roger Taber). This one is simply a mention of a poerty reading at a London LGBT Arts Festival, but this one is a little more extensive and describes him as a professional poet. I'll add them in to the article and see if I can unearth anything additional. --Jezebel's Ponyo shhh 13:43, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * I just found this BBC blurb describing him as a "top poet". That seals the deal for me, I've changed my opinion to 'keep'. --Jezebel's Ponyo shhh 13:54, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Good finds, probably sufficient. I note that the Scarborough Evening News and the BBC Somerset news both count as local sources rather than national and are weak evidence of impact in the GNG context. Fæ (talk) 14:02, 8 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Although my original intention was to endorse deletion based on the former state of the article, I'm finding many mentions in various local papers and reputable primary sources. He certainly does seem prominent and well recognized within the LGBT community. As poets do not always receive the same amount of attention as novelists, the fact that I am able to find so many references to him being a noted poet solidifies notability for me. Jezebel's Ponyo shhh 14:10, 8 June 2010 (UTC)

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:42, 15 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.

 Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:05, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.


 * Second relist rationale. The article is a BLP. --Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:06, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep per discussion above. Hobit (talk) 15:24, 22 June 2010 (UTC)
 * Keep. I think the points above are sound, and document that notability exists - Ponyo's research seals it. UltraExactZZ Said~ Did 20:28, 24 June 2010 (UTC)
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