Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RCSI RFC


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   redirect to Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. There seems to be a consensus that the club itself is not sufficiently notable for its own article, but deletion would make little sense since there is a viable target for a redirect and possibly merge. I'm redirecting it, but if anybody wants to perform a merge at a later date, they may do so, consulting the talk page of the target article if necessary. HJ Mitchell &#124;  Penny for your thoughts?   00:34, 25 November 2011 (UTC)

RCSI RFC

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WP:NN, club hasn't won any significant leagues or cups, the basic requirement for notability Gnevin (talk) 23:07, 2 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Comment also fails WikiProject_Rugby_union/Notability Gnevin (talk) 10:57, 3 October 2011 (UTC)


 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Rugby union-related deletion discussions. AIR corn  (talk) 11:05, 3 October 2011 (UTC)

DeleteCan find no independent sources for this club. AIR corn (talk) 00:04, 10 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Merge into the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. AIR corn (talk) 21:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)

Keep It has provided a notable player/admin in Jonathan Raphael (or Jon Raphael). Director of Northampton and previous hooker for Leinster and benchwarmer for England a dozen times including two tours. It also satisfies point 2 of WikiProject_Rugby_union/Notability being that Ireland is a high performance union. Regarding a full length editorial or in depth article on an amateur rugby side, very few clubs will make this. However, I have found a few references to the club as mentioned above regarding Dr Raphael, and also about the club participating in cup games:, and  --Bob247 (talk) 00:07, 18 October 2011 (UTC)
 * Is there any way to add more information about the club (history, record etc) to this article. I can't even find a website, the closet I got was this advertisement for a head coach . If it is only ever going to consist of a few short sentences I struggle to see the value of retaining it. I would rather see these sorts of articles (borderline notability and no content) merged into their respective league or some other appropriate article. BTW I could not find any mention of Jon Raphael in the linked sources. AIR corn (talk) 08:42, 28 October 2011 (UTC)
 * I didn't include a reference to Jon Raphael in the linked sources. Here is one. Also, one must look in books and other such material for references, not just the web. --Bob247 (talk) 20:36, 3 November 2011 (UTC)
 * One can only use what they have. I am more than happy to assume good faith if you use books to add information to this article. With just three short sentences, possibly five using the references provided here, and with no obvious means of expansion I still think the best option would be to merge this into the Royal College of Surgeons in Ireland. AIR corn (talk) 21:48, 3 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Note to closer This discussion does not appear to have been properly transcluded in the AfD log. I am adding it to the current log. Please consider the delay when deciding when to close it. Monty  845  20:38, 4 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, slakr  \ talk / 00:20, 14 November 2011 (UTC)


 * Automated comment: This AfD was not correctly transcluded to the log (step 3). I have transcluded it to Articles for deletion/Log/2011 November 17.  Snotbot   t &bull; c &raquo;  19:47, 17 November 2011 (UTC)
 * Delete "Source" doesn't establish notability. Tigerboy1966 (talk) 01:07, 18 November 2011 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.