Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/RHAPSODY( Annual social of MEDICAL COLLEGE , KOLKATA)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. Filtering out the extensive socking. SPAs, etc, I can only find a single established user who is arguing to keep, and that user fails to provide any policy-based argument; simply asserting that this is definitely notable doesn't carry any weight. -- RoySmith (talk) 17:01, 27 August 2017 (UTC)

RHAPSODY( Annual social of MEDICAL COLLEGE, KOLKATA)

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Non-notable event. This is a student-led school festival. Coverage is all either ads for the event or local interest coverage. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 18:29, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment--This is a 71 year old event,one of the most famous college festivals in eastern India, definitely just not an event of local coverage. It's been associated with Medical College Kolkata since the middle of last century. — Preceding unsigned comment added by DipamoyB (talk • contribs) 18:36, 3 August 2017 (UTC) — DipamoyB (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of India-related deletion discussions. CAPTAIN RAJU (T) 19:02, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Merge back into the article on the school, with appropriate trimmage. Anmccaff (talk)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Events-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Schools-related deletion discussions. Shawn in Montreal (talk) 23:29, 3 August 2017 (UTC)


 * Comment Reviewing admin should note the presence of several comments on this page's talk page (for what they're worth). WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 11:05, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment--
 * @WikiDan61 sir, I really don't understand why do you think this page is about local interest !! This is the culture of Oldest medical college of Asia.How can this be a non notable event?? Best print medias of lndia, like The Telegraph, The Times of India has given news of it. Enough resources are provided. This must be included in Wikipedia. Dipra Dattasarma (talk) 13:58, 4 August 2017 (UTC) — Preceding unsigned comment added by Dipra Dattasarma (talk • contribs) 13:24, 4 August 2017 (UTC)  — Dipra Dattasarma (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * According to WikiProject Deletion sorting/India deletion policies, it is clearly mentioned that any article which gives resources from renowned print medias of India are considered notable. It is already mentioned in the page reference section, Times of India & the Telegraph, 2 well known news papers of India have already published report about this cultural event. However, if u have missed it, I request you to visit the reference and further reading section of the page. Plz go through it and reconsiderDipra Dattasarma (talk) 16:30, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
 * I have already spoken on behalf of this page, again and again, why this page should be kept in wikipedia. For the last time I want to summarize my points. Firstly I would like to request all to visit two Wikipedia articles Deletion and deletionism & Notability (Organizations and Companies).
 * According to the 1st article, A new page can be deleted if-


 * 1. It can not be verified. But this page is obviously verified with reliable source references


 * 2.If It is not notable,... but again this page is notable, because it shows significant external coverage. It has got enough notice from famous print medias of India, The Telegraph, The Times of India etc. It has got notice from Famous question- answer sight Quora also.To verify that I request all to visit the Reference and Further reading section of the page.


 * 3. If it does copyright violation. Obviously again, no copy right has been violated in this page..

After discussing these 3 main points, I would like to counter @WikiDan61 sir's very first objection about this page- " This is a student led school festival, coverage is all either ads or local interest coverage". Sir,


 * 1. These are not any ordinary students, these are future doctors, the best minds of India


 * 2. This is no ordinary school, this is 182 years old, the oldest medical college of Asia


 * 3. This is no ordinary festival. This is a 71 years old tradition, where students from 150 colleges of India participate, thousands of Doctors come, many social activities are performed. Sir, this is not only a event to laugh, sing or dance, this is a movement for the betterment of society.


 * 4. Coverages are surely not mere ads or local interest coverages. Times of India, The Telegraph have reviewed it, Quora has mentioned it. Are these local or ad sources?


 * 5. Finally, this page must not be merged with with the college page, because it is an independent tradition, not only students of Medical College, Kolkata but the students of over 150 other colleges of India also participate in it. It is a culture to all.

Being a new editor I might falter, but as master editors, should not you have guided us how to improve the page, instead of trying to delete it? I have nothing more to say.Hope, you will consider with reason and heart and keep it in Wikipedia. With respect to all Dipra Dattasarma (talk) 06:39, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * When similar pages like Spring Fest of IIT KGP or the festival page of AIIMS DELHI, Pulse (festival) are existing with reputation, why delete or redirect this page?
 * Delete (or Merge with trim), per nom. Coverage does not satisfy WP:NEVENT. All the claims from the WP:SPA WP:COI do not touch the fact that all coverage is in passing with no WP:DEPTH, nor any of the other WP:COVERAGE requirements. --Muhandes (talk) 09:37, 6 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Visit these wiki pages @Muhandes. Pulse (festival), Saarang, Unmaad, Mood Indigo (festival), Spring Fest. Are these pages of any different type? Have they anymore special coverage? Are they merged with their institution page? Please, think and reconsider.Dipra Dattasarma (talk) 17:24, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * One of which is already tagged for notability, with, I suspect, more to follow. This neither advances nor detracts from keeping this article. Anmccaff (talk) 17:45, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 17:54, 7 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Notablw because articles from and and available 110.227.77.152 (talk) 08:55, 8 August 2017 DipamoyB (talk) 11:32, 9 August 2017 (UTC)oDipamoyB

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus. Relisting comment: Ignoring the extensive (quite impressive, actually) sock-fest, there's only two real comments here, and that's not enough to call a consensus yet.
 * Keep-- Because this is one of the oldest college fests of india ; it is notable because enough independent resources are provided Arpanpra (talk) 09:42, 8 August 2017 (UTC) — Arpanpra (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep--this article is notable. Times of india and the telegraph are reputed newspapers of India. They have reviewed it. This page should be kept.Arnavdub99 (talk) 10:18, 8 August 2017 (UTC) — Arnavdub99 (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep.-- People must know about such a old event. It is no ordinary school  fest. The event  is notable too. Enough  resources, provided. Further reading section  and external  link section  gives  more proofs. It should  be kept as an individual  page  ArunavaGupta (talk) 10:26, 8 August 2017 (UTC) — ArunavaGupta (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep.--This is the annual social of the oldest medical college of asia and has its repitation of its own.its not an prdinary college fest,its the biggest college fest of eastern india in 2015.it is reviewed by the telegraph,times of india and several other mostly circulated newspapers.so it should be kept.keep this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Arghyasa (talk • contribs) 15:25, 8 August 2017 (UTC)  — Arghyasa (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep.--This is the annual social of the oldest medical college of asia and has its repitation of its own.its not an prdinary college fest,its the biggest college fest of eastern india in 2015.it is reviewed by the telegraph,times of india and several other mostly circulated newspapers.so it should be kept.keep this article. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 106.203.156.221 (talk) 15:15, 8 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, -- RoySmith (talk) 01:08, 11 August 2017 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete (or, at a pinch, merge a very trimmed-back version to the article on the institution). I have no doubt that it's all kinds of fun, but it's also all kinds of non-notable and even more of promotional. At such a time as coverage mandates spinning a non-promotional version back out, there's no problem in doing so, but this isn't the time or the version. BigHaz - Schreit mich an 01:41, 11 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep-- funny is not it after providing 22 independent resources.you guys are still shouting, this page is not notable. what do you want? a refrence list longer than the content of the page.just because you dont like it and a group of new indian editors have created this page you are voting to delete it.what is funnier, this is an india related event and no indian master editors have commented once here.please, come above your personal choices and explain,why this page is not notable. even after providing 22 independent resources which include times of india,the telegraph and quora . Prtkbsws (talk) 05:35, 11 August 2017 (UTC) — Prtkbsws (talk&#32;• contribs) has made few or no other edits outside this topic.
 * Keep--Fix the title of the article, remove promotional material. Has a lot of work to be done, but definitely notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Hyungjoo98 (talk • contribs) 14:20, 12 August 2017 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, L3X1 (distænt write)   )evidence(  17:10, 19 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Comment The two national newspaper references may swing it for me. That famous performers perform at the festival helps as well. I note the people here (and on the article's talk page) who are very keen to keep the page. I think the long list of references isn't helping their case because among the higher quality links there are lower quality links. Since the festival has been occurring since 1947 there is significant historical background. Are there major media/entertainment stars who participated in the festival when students? If so, this would help establish notability for the festival. E.g. in the same way that the Cambridge Footlights are notable because of the large number of famous comedians/actors/etc. who participated in footlights. (And probably there are other reasons for notability too.) Can one of the proponents of the page tell us if there are such 'graduates'? Ross-c (talk) 01:12, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Wait--Doing some own local-language investigations!Godric on Leave (talk) 08:59, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Delete--Delete the article and redirect to the article on the college.For what it's worth:--this reference is non-proffesional journalism from a college-goer for a wing of the Telegraph whose targeted audience are the students and hence delves on camp-us news et al.Also, this is effectively a section on the City events section in a daily supplement(T2) published by the paper.I searched for notable coverage about the event on local vernacular dailies but there were almost nil covg. barring some short, trivial mentions in the City events column(s) at the time of the year, they were organized.(This column mentions about 10-15 events everyday(including art exhibitions, local sports tournaments etc.)!So, that basically entails zero notability.And that some famed artists performed at the event also leads to no notability/encycloepadicness.(Even, in our annual neighbourhood Puja function, some of these names have performed!) Winged Blades of Godric On leave 11:44, 20 August 2017 (UTC)
 * , this is a college fest and there seems to be other articles about college fests such as Rendezvous (festival) and Tryst, IIT Delhi. How do we decide if those are notable and this one is not?--DreamLinker (talk) 13:39, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * We don't. This is a discussion about this fest, not about those others. See WP:OTHERSTUFFEXISTS. WikiDan61 ChatMe!ReadMe!! 14:32, 21 August 2017 (UTC)
 * Keep- the festival where current stars of west bengal, like Kamaleswar Mukherjee, Dr. Plaban Mukherjee, Dr Nirmal Maji, Dr Sikha Banerjee etc have participated during stednt life, is definitely notable. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 118.185.78.109 (talk) 04:20, 25 August 2017 (UTC)


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