Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rabbi Simon Leiter


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The result was delete. Deor (talk) 22:05, 16 August 2014 (UTC)

Rabbi Simon Leiter

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Nothing in this article explains why he is notable enough for a WP Article. Lots of rabbi's and priest write teachings - doesn't make them all notable Gbawden (talk) 09:11, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete. Nothing online indicates notability either. --Dmol (talk) 09:19, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete as no evidence of any notability. – Davey 2010 •  (talk)  12:10, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete: having checked Hebrew sources, I can confirm that Leiter and his book, Yalkut Hadash, are almost never mentioned in rabbinical literature. While his son's obituary refers to him as the 'famous' Rabbi Shimon Leiter, I can't find any indication of his fame. הסרפד  (call me Hasirpad) 13:29, 7 August 2014 (UTC)
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The fact that the book is a Yalkut (roughly: an anthology) only counts against its notability, since Likkutim/Yalkutim are commonplace and contain little original material by definition. Your linking to Yalkut is deceptive, as Yalkut Chadash notability does not approach that of any of the other works listed there; it was added to the list by the same user who created Rabbi Simon Leiter. (In my opinion, article Yalkut is completely invalid as a partial title match that could potentially be extended to over a hundred entries. It should redirect to Yalkut Shimoni, the only Yalkut referred to as "Yalkut" alone.) Finally, WP:DONOTDEMOLISH is not a reason to keep; it is a reason to be patient about an article's state. Notability does not usually increase with the passing of time. הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 15:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Delete Fails WP:GNG. Article does not establish notability, and there seem to be no WP:RS that would. --Jersey92 (talk) 02:33, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * Keep he is a WP:N& WP:V author of rabbinic literature such as his work "Sefer Yalkut Chadash" as noted online and still published and available (Amazon);  (Ebay). This is only a Rabbi-stub & Bio-stub. Article was only created a couple of weeks ago. Please note WP:CHANCE and WP:DONOTDEMOLISH as the article is being improved. Thank you, IZAK (talk) 11:47, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * By which criterion of WP:NAUTHOR was Leiter notable for his book? My searches indicate that Yalkut Chadash is utterly obscure: there are less than a dozen distinct mentions of Yalkut Chadash in HebrewBooks and Otzar HaHochma—which, as you surely know, are very inclusive databases of rabbinical literature—and most refer to the same passage, a Hasidic tale about the Rebbe of Tolne. (The fact that Yalkut Chadash is sold on Amazon and eBay reflects the popularity, among some Judaica collectors, of 'early' American rabbinic works.)

Notability in the field, not notability in general media, is the standard, per WP:ANYBIO: "The person has made a widely recognized contribution that is part of the enduring historical record in his or her specific field" as well as WP:SCHOLAR in this case in the field of Torah scholarship. Also, in years gone by, user had once noted  in Articles for deletion/Chaim Dov Keller that: ".. Notability in the field, not notability in general media, is the standard, and that is met here. There is no problem I can see that can justify a delete vote..." and the same applies here. As for the inline/internal link to Yalkut it is legitimate in the context and at this time in order to illustrate what the name is about, it is obviously not what the work Sefer Yalkut Chadash is about per se. Methinks you are setting a very high bar for what can be included on WP by ignoring WP:NOTPAPER and WP:BEBOLD that are essential for building up WP as an encyclopedia and not tearing it down if it does not meet your personal exceedingly high standards given your predilection for voting to delete almost all suggestions that are posted on WikiProject Deletion sorting/Judaism, while I function in the mode of Inclusionism. Thanks, and Shabbat Shalom. IZAK (talk) 19:15, 8 August 2014 (UTC) However, it is clear that you ignored the first part of what I wrote above: I demonstrated that Leiter was not notable in his own field—rabbinical literature! הסרפד (call me Hasirpad) 19:44, 8 August 2014 (UTC)
 * I will not dwell on the differences in our ideas of notability; though you exaggerate my deletionism a bit, we obviously disagree often, but I think my concept of notability is somewhat closer to the general Wikipedia community's than yours.


 * Delete fails WP:ACADEMIC, despite IZAK's claim. Verifiable, not notable, pernom.. --Bejnar (talk) 13:33, 16 August 2014 (UTC)
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