Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racebannon (2nd nomination)


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The result was   nomination withdrawn (non-admin closure). -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 16:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)

Racebannon
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Fails WP:MUSIC on all counts. -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 09:20, 30 September 2008 (UTC)


 * Author Keep The nomination has no substance. The nominator was involved in the previous AfD, and put it on a list of topics he believes should never have an article. The previous AfD was successful mainly because the author of the article was an employee of the band's record label and the article was an obvious puff piece (or so I surmise; I haven't seen the prior version). The group easily passes WP:MUSIC for its releases on important labels (Secretly Canadian, Southern Records), and has gotten press in e.g. Allmusic, Pitchfork Media, Alternative Press and The Stranger. Chubbles (talk) 12:53, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Speedy keep per Chubbles. No substance to nomination. There are plenty of sources, including a rather substantial Allmusic bio and third party reviews. Ten Pound Hammer  and his otters • (Broken clamshells • Otter chirps • HELP) 16:25, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep Bad faith nom. Meets WP:MUSIC per Chubbles. Nom should note that the subject does not have to meet every WP:MUSIC criterea, and this artist meets criteria 1 (non-trivial third party sources) and 5 (released music on Secretly Canadian, a notable indie record label). Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 16:33, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Keep The nominator's good/bad faith shouldn't play a part in the discussion of the article's merits, which appear in this case to satisfy the criteria for notability. Themfromspace (talk) 17:54, 30 September 2008 (UTC)
 * Comment - the nomination was made in good faith. It is true that I keep a record of articles that have been deleted which I check periodically to see if any have been recreated, but as far as I could see this band failed all criteria on WP:MUSIC, which is why I nominated it.
 * The band has not been the subject of multiple non-trivial published works
 * The band has not had a charted hit on any national music chart.
 * The band has not had a record certified gold or higher in at least one country.
 * The band has not received non-trivial coverage in a reliable source of an international concert tour, or a national concert tour in at least one sovereign country.
 * The band has not released two or more albums on a major label or one of the more important indie labels.
 * The band does not contain at least one notable musician
 * The band has not become the most prominent representative of a notable style or of the local scene of a city.
 * The band has not won or been nominated for a major music award
 * The band has not won or placed in a major music competition.
 * The band has not performed music for a work of media that is notable.
 * The band has not been placed in rotation nationally by any major radio network.
 * The band has not been the subject of a half hour or longer broadcast across a national radio or TV network.
 * If I am wrong about any of the above then I apologise. -- JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 13:45, 1 October 2008 (UTC)
 * Response Let's see: #1 (multiple non-trivial published works): Article from Pitchfork Media and a review from same. Also A biography and several lengthy reviews from Allmusic. Also, band is/was on Secretly Canadian, a notable indie record label which has released music from notable indie rock artists such as Animal Collective, Antony and the Johnsons and Throw Me The Statue and therefore is considered a notable label. The band also released music on Southern Records, which has released music from notable artists such as Babes in Toyland, Chumbawamba, Crass, Les Savy Fav and Slint, which makes that label notable. Also the first Pitchfork Media link I linked to features information on a "national concert tour in at least one sovereign country".   Doc StrangeMailbox Logbook 15:03, 1 October 2008 (UTC)


 * Comment I withdraw my nomination. I was not aware that Pitchfork Media and Allmusic were considered reliable sources. --  JediLofty Talk to meFollow me 16:07, 4 October 2008 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.