Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel Berry (Miss Oregon)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Miss Oregon. Half of these have already been redirected and Bushranger's !vote is the most convincing one here so redirect it shall be (non-admin closure) – Davey 2010 Merry Xmas / Happy New Year 22:07, 23 December 2015 (UTC)

Rachel Berry (Miss Oregon)

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Per WP:NOPAGE this article should be redirected to Miss Oregon where the information is best presented in context as part of a list. The proposed redirect does not require establishing notability, which is hard to do in these cases anyway. In this case, she lost her title three weeks later for a technical violation (not resident in Oregon). Legacypac (talk) 05:50, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Oregon-related deletion discussions. sst✈(discuss) 09:06, 9 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Keep as her notability is for winning the Miss Oregon title and notability is not temporary. Subject easily crosses the verifiability and notability thresholds with significant coverage in reliable third-party sources. Her term as Miss Oregon was just barely shorter than William Henry Harrison's as President of the United States and both had about equal impact on world history. Fortunately for both of them, notability is a threshold, not a competition. - Dravecky (talk) 18:29, 9 December 2015 (UTC)
 * You can't be serious. Ya we know it's your article, but given that Miss Oregon accomplishs nothing in a year, doing nothing for three weeks is even less. Legacypac (talk) 22:53, 11 December 2015 (UTC)
 * "Doing something" is not a criteria for notability. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 07:00, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of California-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 19:13, 16 December 2015 (UTC)
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 * See also WP:NTEMP which says "In particular, if reliable sources cover a person only in the context of a single event, and if that person otherwise remains, or is likely to remain, a low-profile individual, we should generally avoid having a biographical article on that individual." Legacypac (talk) 20:24, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep as her notability is for winning the Miss Oregon title and notability is not temporary. Period. also per WP:GNG.--BabbaQ (talk) 20:45, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * Can you point to a policy that says winning this award confers notability or how this person is not a low profile individual barred from an article per NTEMP ? Legacypac (talk) 22:45, 17 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I can't think of a major pageant winner in the United States who isn't found to meet WP:GNG at AFD, at least that's a very very common outcome. Pageants are dumb, but so are sports.  That's life.--Milowent • hasspoken  05:52, 18 December 2015 (UTC)
 * I've participated in dozens of AfDs of state pageant winners that were deleted or redirected. Not all, but a lot go delete or redirect Legacypac (talk) 12:10, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


 * Redirect to Miss Oregon as suggested by the nom and for the usual reasons (cheap, plausible, etc.) as well as my commentary on Articles for deletion/Lucy Fleck. - The Bushranger One ping only 11:55, 20 December 2015 (UTC)


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