Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rachel Lee Carter


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The result was   delete. The Bushranger One ping only 02:59, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

Rachel Lee Carter

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Completely WP:NN state-level, second tier beauty pagent winner (national loser) and WP:NN business person. Toddst1 (talk) 21:52, 10 July 2012 (UTC)
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 * Comment. Some (limited) news coverage associated with her book. -- 202.124.75.131 (talk) 13:20, 11 July 2012 (UTC)
 * (With some regret) Delete unless she meets Beauty Queen criteria for keeping, a subject on which I am no expert. Peterkingiron (talk) 13:02, 14 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete - Author of a nonnotable book per WP:NBOOK, president of a nonnotable organization per WP:ORG (they just market her speaking gigs), does not meet WP:AUTHOR nor WP:NMODEL, may meet WP:ANYBIO as being nominated numerous times for a significant award (if state level Miss and Mrs. USA awards are "well-known and significant" then she meets that). It's a poor argument (WP:OTHERSTUFF) but it would appear that most Miss North Carolina Teen USA are not included on Wikipedia so it likely isn't enough to merit notability. But meeting one or more of the previously mentioned criteria does not guarantee that a subject should be included so I'd like to check against WP:BASIC for living people. And here she totally fails. There aren't multiple, independent secondary sources about Rachel Lee Carter to prove her notability. --Joshuaism (talk) 02:44, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, — Crisco 1492 (talk) 02:46, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Comment - this article also violates WP:NOTADVERTISING. It would be wise to find some third party sources discussing her speaking engagements if this is going to remain on Wikipedia. --Joshuaism (talk) 03:25, 18 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Keep- While it needs cleanup she seems to meet wp:bio. The coverage just for her win at the 2009 Mrs. North Carolina pagent seems to meet that criteria. I added some sources to the article.  Gtstricky Talk or C 14:59, 18 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete WP:AUTHOR nor WP:NMODEL seem like the relavent guidelines, and she doesn't meet either of them. Note that interview-based sources are not independent. Stuartyeates (talk) 01:29, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete for not meeting relevant guidelines and not otherwise appearing to meet WP:GNG. RonSigPi (talk) 14:04, 21 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Delete this completely non-notable beauty-pageant contestant until she becomes governor of Alaska. Miserably fails WP:AUTHOR and WP:BK. Qworty (talk) 09:43, 24 July 2012 (UTC)
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