Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racial transformation (individual) (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was redirect to Ethnic plastic surgery. There's consensus not to have an article. Whether to merge anything can be discussed further on the talk page.  Sandstein  17:00, 28 May 2016 (UTC)

Racial transformation (individual)
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 * Queried speedy delete for hoax and WP:OR. Anthony Appleyard (talk) 20:21, 1 May 2016 (UTC)


 * Delete as original research. — Malik Shabazz Talk/Stalk 20:40, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - My opinion hasn't changed since the first AfD: fails WP:NEO, ill-defined subject, not sufficiently distinct from other topics, relies on WP:OR. From what I can tell there's [still] not anything worth merging, but if someone identifies something I wouldn't be opposed to a close as selective merge to Passing (racial identity) and/or ethnic plastic surgery without redirect. &mdash;  Rhododendrites talk  \\ 21:03, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or Merge with redirect I concur with merge to Passing or Ethnic plastic surgery. The material from Changing Race, Changing Sex: The Ethics of Self-Transformation is particularly worth keeping.--Nowa (talk) 22:30, 1 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Ethnic groups-related deletion discussions. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 00:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Social science-related deletion discussions. &mdash;  Rhododendrites  talk  \\ 00:40, 4 May 2016 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Keep, or Redirect I have heard of people who have done what is specified in this article. Seems truthful. -EggSalt (talk) 10:15, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete and Redirect if needed at best, still questionable aside from that outstanding event. SwisterTwister   talk  23:58, 7 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge (to Ethnic plastic surgery, passing doesn't seem relevant). The term is used in some works (ex. ). I am not sure which term is more popular, and we may want to consider that one term (RI) may discvuss the sociological/psychological implications of this phenomena, but the other (EPS) seems to be more of a mdeical term. Would be good to hear from an expert of sociology of race on this, but, sigh, what are the odds of one being a Wikipedian... Ping me if one is found :) --Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus&#124; reply here 07:02, 9 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Delete - Whether real or truthful doesn't matter, except for showing that it's not a hoax. Malik Shabazz and Rhododendrites sum up the issues pretty well, so no reason to rehash. Would have !voted redirect, but not sure that the target mentioned above is appropriate, and can't really find one that is.  Onel 5969  TT me 13:48, 9 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   13:54, 9 May 2016 (UTC)  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 * Delete as per Rhodondendrite. DeVerm (talk) 23:17, 10 May 2016 (UTC)
 * Keep or merge and redirect per Nowa. Sufficiently referenced. Walter Görlitz (talk) 06:28, 12 May 2016 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks,  Sandstein   17:45, 20 May 2016 (UTC)


 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.