Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Racism in the Islamic republic of Iran


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   delete. Since its stated the sourced content is already available in the proposed merge I think the outcome is clear and the consensus is that this is a tainted POV ridden article we do not need. Spartaz Humbug! 03:34, 23 December 2010 (UTC)

Racism in the Islamic republic of Iran

 * – ( View AfD View log )

The article contrast multiple Wikipedia policies,WP:ATTACK,WP:POVFORK,WP:NPOV,WP:BLP1E, WP:NOTOPINION,WP:NOTADVOCATE,WP:MADEUP, WP:SYN,WP:NOT as I am explaining:  Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spartaz Humbug! 17:30, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * we must take into account that the article is about Islamic Republic of Iran, not Islamic republic of Persia; Azeri, Kurdish and Balochi ethnics are from Iranian Race!!
 * The article name contrasts its content. The constitution of Iran is based on Islamic laws. 98% of Iranian, including Ahwazi, Azeri, Kurds, and Baluch ethnics are Mslims. Now when there is a punishment like execution, it's same for all of citizens and it's not limited to special groups. More over, it should be noted that western interpretation of human rights is not recognized for Muslims communities who are part of the International world's communities:.
 * The judiciary system of Iran has been based on Islamic law for over 1300 years. Oxford University research confirms this fact:a loosely sewn and frequently resewn patchwork of conflicting authority in which the different and sometimes conflicting sources for Islamic law - the jurists, the actual judges, and the non-Islamic law officials of the king - disputed with each other over the scope of their jurisdictions.... some aspects of the law always remained in the hands of the mullahs ... The village mullah was the natural arbiter in matters of marriage, divorce, and inheritance; and the exalted jurisconsult, in order to carry out the very function for which he was exalted, gave opinions on those matters of law on which he was consulted. In between the village mullah and the jurisconsult there were mullahs with courts which, while sometimes sanctioned by the royal government, depended for their power on the prestige of the presiding mullah judge as much or more than on the government's sanction.(Mottahedeh, Roy, The Mantle of the Prophet : Religion and Politics in Iran, One World, Oxford, 1985, 2000, p.208andp.225). The intention to confine this fact to Islamic Republic just can provide propaganda.
 * A detailed information is provided in Ethnic minorities in Iran and the current article is obviously contrasts WP:POVFORK and WP:NOT
 * More that 1/2 of the article is discussing Ahmadinejad, who is only individual part of a system called Iran's government.
 * An important point is direct and destructive interference of western and some of Iran's neighbors countries. A wikileaks document reveals westerns policy regarding minorities in Iran as follow:Instability in Iran is driven by inflation and tension among ethnic minorities.. Most of the provided sources are in this category.
 * Most of the sources deals with one case that happened or one person and they are synthesized to show a whole conclusion.
 * The tone and the way article is written is only gallery of indiscrimination of information. (Just compare it with Ethnic minorities in Iran) Aliwiki (talk) 20:06, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge to Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran. This is not a good article (to put it mildly) and smells of POV a mile away. But there is sourced content, and the title/topic is not an improbable search term. I'm notifying the editor of this discussion. Drmies (talk) 20:31, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Iran-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 23:38, 7 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge as per Drmies, transferring only sourced content. Edward321 (talk) 00:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Yeah, cleanup after a merge can be tricky. I am going to assume that with such a tendentious topic there will be lots of eyes--oversight is more likely to happen on the bigger article anyway. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 01:55, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete : The article is a classic example of WP:POVFORK. It can be grouped under WP:ATTACK and at best only two sentence from that can be mentioned in Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran (far more less than a Merge!) --Alborz Fallah (talk) 09:14, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Alborz, I can't say I disagree with your points. I come down on a slightly more positive balance, but I won't shed a tear if delete is the conclusion--the sources are not likely to go away, and no doubt they already are or will be used in my proposed target article. Thanks, Drmies (talk) 15:42, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete: The topic of the article is not notable and it's WP:POVFORK. NPOV parts can be merged with other related articles, and article should be deleted. --Wayiran (talk) 15:51, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Merge per Drmies, carefully filtering content as we go. Andy Dingley (talk) 17:06, 8 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Merge using reliable sources such as Iran and the challenge of diversity: Islamic fundamentalism, Aryanist racism, and democratic struggles'' by Alireza Asgharzadeh. The topic is a good one and can be written well with good sources. Binksternet (talk) 18:37, 15 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Comment - Wayiran, "delete and merge NPOV stuff" is not an option. To merge requires keeping the page history intact and available for viewing, while deleting makes the page history inaccessible to most people. — Preceding unsigned comment added by NotARealWord (talk • contribs) 17:58, 17 December 2010 (UTC)
 * Delete. An unbalanced WP:POVFORK, WP:ATTACK essay created by a suspicious WP:SPA, and an obvious WP:SOCK. The salvageable content is already available under the Human rights in the Islamic Republic of Iran. Kurdo777 (talk) 22:40, 20 December 2010 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.