Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radhika Muthukumar (2nd nomination)


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. That the article has been kept at an earlier AfD is immaterial: as some remarked, consensus may change. The editors !voting "delete" present strong, policy-based arguments, but the same cannot be said for the "keep" !votes. Randykitty (talk) 14:23, 7 September 2022 (UTC)

Radhika Muthukumar
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Fails WP:NACTOR and WP:GNG ( All sources only One TV Serial Sasural Simar Ka 2) PravinGanechari (talk) 19:39, 14 August 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:44, 21 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Actors and filmmakers-related deletion discussions. PravinGanechari (talk) 19:39, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the deletion sorting lists for the following topics: Women and India. Shellwood (talk) 19:44, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. No evidence that anything has changed wrt notability since the discussion last year. pburka (talk) 20:01, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * The page contains sources of only one TV serial, Does notability pass on the basis of just one TV serial's source? ( One of the three supports in First Afd is a member of the page Created's group. IP - 117.193.137.253 ) PravinGanechari (talk) 20:58, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * While you may disagree with the consensus reached one year ago you haven't provided any evidence that the discussion was closed incorrectly or that the community's standards have shifted. I feel it's improper to renominate pages until one's desired outcome is achieved. pburka (talk) 21:27, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * One of the sources attached to it does not even mention the person's name PravinGanechari (talk) 21:33, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Has anything changed since the last discussion, or do you simply disagree with the consensus that was reached? pburka (talk) 22:15, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * There is no question to agree or disagree sir that page contains only one TV serial source. So I have brought it to Afd. You can also close off Non Admin Afd. Sorry PravinGanechari (talk) 22:30, 14 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep. Per pburka--45.115.91.122 (talk) 05:53, 15 August 2022 (UTC)
 * delete according to my WP:BEFORE, the actress has only two lead roles (in "Kya Haal, Mr. Paanchal?", and "Sasural Simar Ka 2"). Rest of the appearances, including the movie, are not lead/significant. This makes her fail WP:NACTOR. As the subject lacks significant coverage in reliable sources, she fails general notability guidelines as well. —usernamekiran (talk) 19:26, 18 August 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 04:22, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Delhi-related deletion discussions. –LaundryPizza03 ( d  c̄ ) 03:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment Congrats! this is the first AfD in a new delsort! –LaundryPizza<b style="color:#b00">03</b> ( d c̄ ) 03:09, 25 August 2022 (UTC)
 * <p class="xfd_relist" style="margin:0 0 0 -1em;border-top: 1px solid #AAA; border-bottom: 1px solid #AAA; padding: 0px 2em;"> Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


 * Delete: Per Nom and consensus can change. NACTOR. Just not enough significant coverage in reliable sources that does not satisfy more than a fan base. Other than the scant credits, that mainly includes a Cameo, Guest appearance, one film, and a newer (2021) recurring role, it seems too soon for more than a job listing and an article just shy of a dictionary entry, which is a pseudo biography. --  Otr500 (talk) 05:32, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * Keep:Nothing has changed since the last nomination. Muthukumar played the lead in the marathi film Rangeela Rayaab and in the two Hindi series Kya Haal, Mr. Paanchal?, Sasural Simar Ka 2 which makes her pass NACTOR. However a cleanup is required regarding WP:GNG which will be done now.117.209.207.169 (talk) 15:06, 29 August 2022 (UTC)
 * This IP has no edits outside this AfD/AfD's subject. Also, they signed their first ever comment/first edit. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * According to this TOI page, the film is titles "Rangeela Rayabaa" (which makes sense in Marathi, "Rayaab" doesnt). Muthukumar does not have a significant role in that film. The NACTOR guideline says the [actor should have] significant roles in multiple notable films, television shows [...]. Rangeela Rayabaa is not a notable film. Regarding "Nothing has changed since the last nomination", consensus can change, but ironically, the work of the actress did not increase. —usernamekiran (talk) 17:20, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - Muthukumar was the lead in the film Rangeela Rayabaa which makes her role in that film significant. Rangeela Rayabaa is a notable film in Marathi so it does count into WP:NACTOR. Besides that Muthukumar was also the lead in Kya Haal, Mr. Paanchal? and Sasural Simar Ka 2. Therefore 3 lead roles itself makes 3 significant roles which makes Muthukumar pass WP:NACTOR.
 * 117.230.6.7 (talk) 06:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comments: There seems to be some confusion with the !vote above. "Cleanup" does not have anything to do with notability: On Wikipedia, notability is a test used by editors to decide whether a given topic warrants its own article. For people, the person who is the topic of a biographical article should be "worthy of notice" or "note"—that is, "remarkable" or "significant, interesting, or unusual enough to deserve attention or to be recorded" within Wikipedia as a written account of that person's life. All such notability standards (WP:NBASIC and the additional criteria) are not just a listing of accomplishments but providing proof (including inline citations when contested) for a "written account of that person's life", or that the subject deserves an article. This, along with What Wikipedia is not is suppose to be a catch to prevent dictionary entries, pseudo biographies, and resumes. Now that Wikipedia is established, the criteria for including subjects is usually (and should be) held to a higher standard than; "Well they were in a couple of movies so they must be notable". --  Otr500 (talk) 02:06, 5 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete Small-time bit part actor and barely worked. Fail WP:NACTOR.   scope_creep Talk  13:38, 6 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - She has 3 lead/significant roles played in two notable Hindi series Kya Haal, Mr. Paanchal?, Sasural Simar Ka 2 and one notable Marathi film Rangeela Rayabaa. So doesn't that make her pass WP:NACTOR?
 * 117.230.6.7 (talk) 06:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Note to closing admin - see: Sockpuppet investigations/Mickeydkop. PravinGanechari (talk) 8:19, 7 September 2022 (UTC)
 * Comment - My name is Alicia David. I'm a student of JNU Delhi and I am not a sockpuppet of User:Mickeydkop. It's just that my mobile data ip keeps varying everytime I make an edit. I really don't know Mickey nor have any relations with them.117.230.38.185 (talk) 11:26, 7 September 2022 (UTC)


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