Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radiator (information)


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The result was   merge to Agile software development. Mark Arsten (talk) 02:08, 9 August 2012 (UTC)

Radiator (information)

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Seems to me like a neologism, so I think it should be deleted per WP:NOTNEO Ducknish (talk) 20:04, 25 July 2012 (UTC)

This term has been in common parlance since the early 2000s (see agile modeling -- published 12 April 2002), but only within agile software development circles. Similar phases such as continuous integration and Test-driven development have there own pages, and there is even an entry for Build light indicator, which is arguably a specialised form of information radiator. I intend for this article to grow to record the growing adoption of build radiators for continuous integration, and radiators for real-time metrics, but didn't want to invest the time if the article is just going to get deleted. Presumably Wikipedia desires new content generation? — Preceding unsigned comment added by TomDenley (talk • contribs) 22:36, 25 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete NEO, frankly it's just a Big Telly (TM) Greglocock (talk) 04:06, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Speedy keep. I added a reference to a reliable source suggested by TomDenley, which discusses the term. This satisfies WP:NOTNEO. Unless there are other grounds to consider deletion, this AfD should be closed. To TomDenley: Yes, Wikipedia desires new content generation. Be patient with our process, though: we have to balance the desire for new content with the need to keep out cruft and keep the encyclopedia useful.--Srleffler (talk) 02:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * I have moved the article to Information radiator, per Article titles--Srleffler (talk) 02:29, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Computing-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:13, 26 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Software-related deletion discussions.  • Gene93k (talk) 15:14, 26 July 2012 (UTC)


 * Transwiki to wiktionary: it is a mere slang term, thus not an encyclopedic topic. — Dmitrij D. Czarkoff (talk) 13:24, 28 July 2012 (UTC)
 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, The Bushranger One ping only 01:46, 2 August 2012 (UTC)




 * Merge to Agile software development. This is close to being WP:NEO or WP:DICDEF. As a term seriously proposed though apparently not very widely used it could simply be redirected to Agile software development where it would get a brief, cited paragraph. The term is related to but not a synonym for Build light indicator; that well-written article uses another term "dashboard" for a monitor-displayed project status summary, effectively an automated ""information radiator"" to coin a phrase. Cockburn did introduce the term in his book (Cockburn, Alistair. Agile Software Development. Addison-Wesley, 2002. pages 84-88); he is a respected authority, but in this case a primary source.


 * There could be some secondary sources for IR; Michael Swaine defends the term in Dr. Dobbs: Is Your Workspace Informative? (10 Dec 2007) where he incorrectly writes that Ian Alexander and Kathleen Maitland referred to IRs in their phrase "hideous neoBlairite jargon". They actually reported on a talk by Helen Sharp (Requirements Quarterly no 39, March 2009, page 6), writing of her work "Cards are kept on “The Wall”, or in the hideous neo-Blairite jargon “Informative Workspaces”. The wall can be a real wall, a flipchart easel, or a glass office-divider panel." Sharp did not mention "Information Radiators", but she was talking about the same things. Not convinced this adds up to Notability, however. Chiswick Chap (talk) 11:30, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Merge to Agile software development (or similar article). (a) It's not obvious that this is independently notable, although there are quite a few books about agile so it might scrape notability. (b) It's unclear if there's any more to add to this very short article beyond the dictionary definition. (c) It should be included in a more general discussion of agile methodology which would help contextualise and explain its function rather than offering a short definition. --Colapeninsula (talk) 14:49, 2 August 2012 (UTC)


 * Delete notability for separate article not established. no redirect necessary as I found no evidence that this is common termonology. As an aside, I'm not convinced that Build light indicator is notable either and I have tagged it. --Kvng (talk) 01:12, 3 August 2012 (UTC)
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