Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio Aleluya WRAR 1700 AM


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was delete. --BDD (talk) 16:40, 16 September 2013 (UTC)

Radio Aleluya WRAR 1700 AM

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Article that relies exclusively on primary sources (and a Google search failed to turn up any better ones either), for a radio station that fails to turn up in either the FCC or Recnet databases. I cannot verify whether it exists under Part 15 or carrier current rules, but either way it isn't a conventional licensed radio station — even its purported call sign, WRAR, conflicts with another station in a different city and state. A radio station in the United States is not entitled to a presumption of notability unless it has an FCC license — an unlicensed station can still become notable enough for inclusion if its sourcing and notability claim are really solid (we do, for example, have some very good, very well-sourced articles about pirate radio stations), but a radio station that has no non-primary sources at all clearly does not meet that standard. There is, in addition, a very real possibility of conflict of interest here, as the article's creator has never contributed anything to Wikipedia at all besides this article. Delete unless somebody can find stronger sourcing than I've been able to. Bearcat (talk) 01:03, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Radio-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. Northamerica1000(talk) 02:42, 1 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Delete/Hoax: Station is a hoax. WRAR-AM and WRAR-FM are both licensed to Tappahannock, Virginia and have been for awhile now.  Per WP:NMEDIA, part 15 stations are not-notable, nor are pirates. -  Neutralhomer  •  Talk  • 07:34, 1 September 2013 (UTC)
 * Well, I wouldn't say it's a hoax as such; it clearly does exist, and unlicensed stations are allowed to call themselves anything they want. The existence of WRAR Tappahannock just proves that this station is an unlicensed part 15 or carrier current operation that isn't inherently notable; it doesn't prove that this station is a hoax. On the other hand, Radio Aleluya itself seems to be a network of several stations across the United States which air the same programming — other outlets include the duly licensed KQUE and KFTG — so the service might potentially qualify for an article (pending valid reliable sources about it, of course) even if not all of its individual transmitters do. Bearcat (talk) 20:22, 3 September 2013 (UTC)


 * Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.


 * Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Mark Arsten (talk) 15:40, 9 September 2013 (UTC)


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