Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radio Disney's Pop Dreamers (album)


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The result was   Keep Clear consensus by participants in this AfD that these albums satisfy notability guidelines.Mike Cline (talk) 19:02, 30 April 2010 (UTC)

Radio Disney's Pop Dreamers (album)
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Delete all Despite charting on minor Billboard album charts, none of these even made the Top 200 best-selling albums of any week. Also, per WP:NALBUMS, "articles on albums...must meet the basic criteria at the notability guidelines, with significant coverage in reliable sources that are independent of the subject." All I found on a search were Disney sites and retailers such as Amazon. Another album in the series was previously deleted for similar reasons (see Articles for deletion/Radio Disney Jams, Vol. 4) and these seem to be less notable that that. Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 18:18, 22 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Albums and songs-related deletion discussions.  -- • Gene93k (talk) 01:58, 24 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Strong Keep - The nominator wants to ignore the guideline at WP:NALBUMS and delete these albums even though they have been nationally charted by Billboard Magazine (not a "minor" chart). Radio Disney: Kid Jams was a TOP 5 on Billboard's Kids Chart. This album was charted by Billboard for well over year (66 weeks on the Chart)!. Radio Disney's Pop Dreamers also charted, and was a TOP 20 on Billboard's Kids charts (#13). Most impressivley for a children's album, Radio Disney Holiday Jams was charted on three different Billboard  charts: Top 5 on the Kids Chart (#4), Top 20 on the Catalog Albums charts (#19), Top 30 on the on the Holiday Albums chart (#24). These albums have perfomances on them by some of the biggest pop-starts of its day. the Albums have significant and extensive international distribution through one of the largest music distributors on the planet - Disney. And the Albums have been reviewed by intependent 3rd parties, including Allmusic Guide which has  has published independent reviews for both Radio Disney: Kid Jams and Radio Disney Holiday Jams. These albums are clearly notable, and clearly their articles should be kept. Pooet (talk) 21:02, 24 April 2010 (UTC)
 * I do not see how charting alone can be considered "significant coverage". On the other hand, you did find reviews for two of the albums on Allmusic. Although, I wouldn't call what was written as reviews, it is coverage. Regarding the charts, I was referring to them as minor as they pertain to Billboard. The main albums chart is the Billboard 200, all others are minor in comparison. I notice you make no mention of Holiday Jams 2 as either charting or reviewed. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 17:49, 25 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep - per WP:NALBUMS, Songs that have been ranked on national or significant music charts are notable. --Morenooso (talk) 05:09, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * The article up for AFD is about an album not a song. --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 08:08, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * That's covered there too. You don't need to respond to every vote. Let other editors develop WP:CONSENSUS. --Morenooso (talk) 08:10, 27 April 2010 (UTC)
 * When clarification or a correction is required, I will comment. Where does it say if an album has charted, it's notable? --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 08:14, 27 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Just because these albums didn't chart on mainstream top 40 charts doesn't make them not notable. These albums still have charted.  It's just they were on an Billboard chart targeted at a different demographic.  Just because you or I don't pay attention to these charts doesn't make them not notable.   Mr. C.C. Hey yo!I didn't do it! 19:00, 29 April 2010 (UTC)
 * Double negatives aside, I still don't see how charting, and charting alone, counts as significant coverage. Just because a few thousand people bought the album doesn't make it notable (Determining notability does not necessarily depend on ... the popularity of a topic). --Starcheerspeaksnewslostwars (talk) 19:45, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


 * Keep Pop Dreamers and Holiday Jams, Delete Kid Jams and Holiday Jams 2. The first two charted and have had fairly widespread coverage so appear to be notable per WP:NALBUMS and WP:GNG. The other two didn't chart and have little or no coverage so don't appear notable. Alzarian16 (talk) 19:56, 29 April 2010 (UTC)


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