Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Radu Postăvaru


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy delete g7 (author tagged) -- Y not? 13:54, 1 May 2015 (UTC)

Radu Postăvaru

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The sourcing doesn't quite stand up to scrutiny on this one. We have:


 * Blurb on the site of a venue where the subject has performed - not independent
 * IMDb entry - routinely discounted
 * Passing mention on a radio station website announcing an upcoming performance - not independent (the performance took place at Sala Radio, owned by Romanian Radio Broadcasting Company, which runs Radio România Cultural, the station in question
 * Concert program - not independent
 * The subject's doctoral thesis - no further comment
 * Brief announcement in his local paper, with a few lines actually about the subject
 * The subject's own website - again, no comment

So, while the subject has had a decent musical career, there simply does not appear to be enough coverage in reliable sources to justify an article; WP:NMUSIC and WP:BASIC are not met. - Biruitorul Talk 01:51, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Romania-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:06, 12 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Bands and musicians-related deletion discussions. • Gene93k (talk) 03:06, 12 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Spirit of Eagle (talk) 02:23, 19 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Keep It needs a lot of work, but don't delete on the grounds of notability. The newspaper source mentioned above is reasonably good - 650 words about him and his plans for the orchestra. I've added a second article from the same paper, and articles from: a second Ploiești newspaper, one of the largest national newspapers (which triggered a couple non-independent follow ups), and an independent arts and culture site. I believe this is sufficient to demonstrate notability according to WP:BASIC. Editors more familiar with the subject area and language can probably dig up more sources.
 * However, whether the subject is notable or not may be a moot question. The text was a word for word copy of the subject's biography on his official website, so the article may be deleted as a copyright violation. According to Google, both copies originated on the same date, so they're likely written by the same person and a release may be forthcoming. Conflict of interest would be an issue, but NPOV could be addressed as the article is reworked to use the new sources and ditch the unreliable ones. Worldbruce (talk) 05:56, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

 Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so a clearer consensus may be reached.
 * While there's always some ambiguity about just how much weight local news sources should be granted, I would note that in Romania, a centralized state where the capital city dominates cultural (and political, and economic) life, genuinely notable figures are almost invariably covered by the national, Bucharest-based papers. This is especially relevant in the present case, given that Ploiești is not quite 40 miles distant from Bucharest. The fact that newspapers in the latter city have barely acknowledged him, and largely through routine coverage at that, I would say does indicate a lack of notability at the present time. - Biruitorul Talk 22:13, 25 April 2015 (UTC)

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, North America1000 01:50, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
 * Delete I cannot find any record of Mr Postăvaru having released an album, let alone on a major label, or having had a concert or tour by one of his orchestras written up by a reputable reviewer. It is very obvious that he does not satisfy the "criteria for musicians and ensembles" at Notability (music). If announcements in local papers make one eligible for a Wikipedia article, Wikipedia will become little more than a hosting site for articles about, and written by, minor musicians. Syek88 (talk) 03:26, 26 April 2015 (UTC)
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