Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rafé Totengco


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was no consensus. (non-admin closure) ASTIG️🙃  (ICE-T • ICE CUBE) 01:45, 19 April 2022 (UTC)

Rafé Totengco

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Fails WP:BIO. A mere 2 gnews hits, 1 line mentions in plain Google search. His awards don't really add to notability. LibStar (talk) 22:53, 20 March 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 23:25, 27 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete - as per nom. Not much here. Tony Fox (arf!) 00:57, 21 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Philippines-related deletion discussions. LibStar (talk) 01:33, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of New York-related deletion discussions. LibStar (talk) 01:34, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Fashion-related deletion discussions. LibStar (talk) 04:23, 23 March 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.

Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Less Unless (talk) 07:14, 4 April 2022 (UTC) Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Liz Read! Talk! 21:46, 11 April 2022 (UTC)
 * Delete The article got several issues. References are not reliable. Afzlfc (talk) 16:14, 28 March 2022 (UTC) (sockpuppet of )
 * Weak keep/Comment - The article isn't great, but I have a feeling the subject may actually scrape a pass after a thoughtful scrutiny of Google Books and Newspapers. Coverage pops up from the mid-1990s up to the 2010s, regularly enough for him not to be a solo flash-in-the-pan. He is mentioned (and illustrated) as a notable contemporary handbag designer in the curator Valerie Steele (of the Fashion Institute)'s 1999 bag book. Other fashion-focused books do also name check him, although individually they are pretty easy to dismiss as not "serious books", it still adds up over the last couple of decades. One of the more interesting hits was for this book on Filipino icons which seems to have something talking about how Totengco was responsible for introducing an "iconic" Filipino shoe called the bakya to the Western fashion scene, but the preview isn't showing me any of it. A Google Newspaper search shows a number of articles mentioning and discussing him in Filipino papers, although I suspect most of them are not considered RS (e.g. Philippine Daily Inquirer). The Manila Standard has a few pages dedicated to him but nothing hugely substantial, mainly quotes and a recap of what he had achieved by 2003, and some nice commentary on how he was able to pursue the American Dream before even going there became less accessible to Filipinos see here. I would like to know if there are Filipino-language articles on him as well. It isn't much, but I think there's *just* enough to scrape him through to qualify for a stub article. Mabalu (talk) 22:35, 31 March 2022 (UTC)
 * Reply - Nothing but a few captions for his bags on NewspaperArchive. I am actually leaning towards a "delete but no prejudice against recreation" because as I said, it feels like he may just scrape through, but it's extremely borderline. Mabalu (talk) 20:06, 7 April 2022 (UTC)
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
 *  Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.


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