Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Rafael Yañez


 * The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review).  No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was   speedy redirect to Chicago aldermanic elections, 2015. Seems to be agreement here that speedy action needed. Anyone, feel free to revert if you feel this is inappropriate. (non-admin closure) ansh 666 06:20, 29 March 2015 (UTC)

Rafael Yañez

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Unelected politician (de facto campaign biography). An earlier attempt at a bold redirect was challenged by the content creator at AN/I and I believe that we should thus treat this like we would a contested PROD. At a glance this is not a GNG pass but I have not examined this at length and am making this AfD nomination as a courtesy to the original content creator so that a defense may be at least made. Carrite (talk) 11:44, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of Politicians-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  11:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Note: This debate has been included in the list of United States of America-related deletion discussions.  Everymorning   talk  11:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy Redirect or Speedy Userfy (with a NOINDEX magic word) until the election is over. A virtually uncited and overly complimentary article on a candidate who bears little to no other cited notability should not exist on Wikipedia mainspace. The article's creator may have been well meaning but they need mentorship. Also, the unexplained list of 15 unformatted and untitled External Links is extremely problematic -- some of them may be useful, but who has the time to click and read each one? All in all, this article is problematic as is, any way one looks at it, and as the nominator states, is a campaign biography. It needs to disappear from mainspace, fast. Softlavender (talk) 12:41, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Note: The election is April 7 (15th Ward), and is a run-off between Yañez and someone who does not have a wiki article, so this article needs to go away fast.  I know you meant well un-redirecting this article, but it shouldn't stand for a full week's AfD in my opinion, due to the promotional nature of it and due to the fact that the election is only nine days away right now. Softlavender (talk) 14:14, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * : How about putting a NOINDEX up until the AfD is closed, would that solve the promotional problem satisfactorily without corrupting the deletion process? Carrite (talk) 15:39, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Ironically, if he wins the election, he'll be an almost certain WP:POLITICIAN keep as an elected Chicago alderman. There is a case to be made for a TNT delete-and-rebuild in that case. This piece clearly needs a massive overhaul if kept; if sources can be mustered in the defense here, I'm willing to do that. I don't want to sink time on a deleted page though. Carrite (talk) 15:46, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * As long as it's on mainspace it's still linkable from the election articles, surname article, etc. Since it's four months old it's already been indexed by Google [even though for some reason it's not coming up on Google at this precise instant; Google is like that sometimes with its new algorithms] and will stay that way for a month or so even if it were to get deleted. Could we draftify it (with a NOINDEX code) while the AfD is in progress? That way it disappears from mainspace, but we can link to it here and discuss it? Softlavender (talk) 15:59, 28 March 2015 (UTC) ETA: I agree there is usable material here if he is elected; I just don't want this article on mainspace influencing that election. Softlavender (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I completely agree. It should not have been restored and it needs to be removed PDQ. I am seriously considering putting a CSD tag on it. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * Speedy delete or redirect per G-11. With due respect to, whose motives I believe are reasonable, this AfD is an unnecessary waste of time. The subject clearly fails WP:POL. In it's current form the article is just a campaign add. Any coverage from press and media is purely of the run of the mill sort that all candidates for public office get. There is no reason to drag this out for the sake of formality. The article is obvious CSD material. -Ad Orientem (talk) 15:53, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * This is a biography, not an ad. Not G11 worthy. Certainly it needs a massive rewrite, but that's not a notability question. Carrite (talk) 16:05, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * I strongly disagree. This is blatant promotionalism and it's continued presence in the main space is very unfair. If I were the other candidate or one of his/her supporters I would be pretty ticked. -Ad Orientem (talk) 16:18, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Yeah, it's pretty blatant. Wikipedia shouldn't be used as a campaign ad. NinjaRobotPirate (talk) 16:57, 28 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Absolutely. It's a WP:COATRACK political ad very thinly disguised as a bio. If this isn't a campaign add then there is no such thing. -Ad Orientem (talk) 17:03, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * The original solution was best: merge into Chicago aldermanic elections, 2015, and convert to a redirect – the current article is problematic, as it clearly seems to be "promotional". If this individual wins election on April 7, then a (hopefully more appropriate) article can be restored here. --IJBall (talk) 16:02, 28 March 2015 (UTC)


 * I have just re-read this article. Just looking at one paragraph it is largely unsourced and reads like a press release, like this unsupported and unattributed claim: He realized he wanted to help mentor youth facing many of the issues of modern urban life.  According to whom, the candidate himself?  This is what you read from a campaign handout, and if it were stripped of puffery it would be lucky to make stub quality.


 * I am tempted just to be bold, and redirect it now as suggested above, any objections?
 * No objections here. However the article has already been redirected once. The nom reverted it. -Ad Orientem (talk) 01:17, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Done. μηδείς (talk) 01:31, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Thanks. This is the best solution, until the election is over. Softlavender (talk) 03:27, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * Editors should also be aware that the creator of this page is the subject of an ANI report here for edit warring on the Chicago mayoral race signed in and under an IP address. μηδείς (talk) 01:05, 29 March 2015 (UTC)
 * The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.